Quote from: hawkeye on March 17, 2013, 02:24:58 PM

Quote from: FirstAscent on March 16, 2013, 04:47:39 AM

Quote from: MonadTran on March 16, 2013, 02:24:15 AM

Quote from: FirstAscent on March 15, 2013, 06:03:49 PM

You win bonehead of the year award. Talk about totally missing the point. The household is an analogy. When using analogies, the analogue is something which exists instead of the that which it is analogizing to.

Care to reread my reply instead of throwing insults?

It's a question of how you understand property rights. You are saying, you have property rights in your household, and, therefore, you can set up any rules that you like. I agree.

If you agree that you can do anything you want on what you clearly demarcate and defend as your property in a universe where no higher authority has domain over your little corner of the world, then you implicitly agree that in our universe on Earth, a country can do anything it wants on a territory which it clearly demarcates and defends as its own and no higher authority has domain over that nation, then we're on the same page. Congratulations if you understand that.

And be glad that in a world which offers many nations to choose from, some are pretty damn good. So good, in fact, that you would be a fool to complain and wish for something significantly different, as others here in this forum do indeed do.

For example, some dimwitted nitwits in these forums start drooling at the notion of life on oil rigs, or life living in rubber tubes on floating icebergs. Imagine the freedoms afforded by such terrific locales! What's next? Life on some mind numbingly cold and lonely rock in the Kuiper Belt? Or how about some ice rock in the Oort Cloud?

Bottom line - you don't know how good you actually have it.

Geez, it's always insults with you isn't it? My experience is that generally people throw out the insults when they don't have an argument.

And as for the you don't know how good you have it, that is an argument that is made many times to justify criminal behaviour. Hey, we're only taking 25% (or whatever) of your money be thankful that you get to keep the rest. Think I saw that on a Sopranos episode.

I'm sure when the mafia runs a protection racket in a town, the same kinds of arguments are made. Hey, this is a great place to live and all you have to do is put up with having your money stole and be told what to do and have the law being constantly changed and expanded on. "Don't make a fuss, shut up, and be thankful for what you've got."

The difference being, in your objections, and reality, is you really don't know how good you have it. You don't really see down and out people complaining about taxes, do you? And besides, if you used all your brain cells (yes I'm insulting you because you really do deserve it), you'd realize that the opportunities afforded you to make money which puts you into a position of being taxed are likely because of the existence of the government.

If you want to complain, please expend your energy complaining about things which will help us all.