Quote from: RichBC on September 26, 2016, 09:13:14 PM

Quote from: morantis on September 26, 2016, 08:52:43 PM

Quote from: RichBC on September 26, 2016, 07:34:49 PM

@tross Please understand I appreciate the effort that you and others who are running pools are putting in for small rewards. What I do not understand is why there are objections to me pointing out when pools are Stuck or Forked particularly when it has been obvious for some Hours that something is wrong?

It is now over 2 months since Forking became a significant issue on the network and yes I appreciate that on occasions it costs the Pool Owner money and if it was an easy problem to solve then it would have been fixed......

Bottom line is it can happen to any Pool not just the ninja based ones. As well as the Pool owners it costs Miners money as well. If I look at daily earnings days when a pool has gone Down or Forked are very obvious. It does not put Burst in a good light if at it's current size a problem like this can take this long to solve, what hope have we if there were 10 x the number of Pools and Miners?

I do not think the solution, as people are fond of suggesting, is for Miners to spread themselves evenly across the Pools or for them to use non ninja based Pools. I for one prefer the ninja pools. The Display with the wealth of information it provides and the clarity there is as to your Historic and Current Round Share. It was in fact one of the things that first attracted me to Burst.

So to those that it may concern. Please stop moaning at me when after some Hours of waiting I point out a Pool is Forked. Please stop telling me to use non ninja Pools, and yes I would go Solo except that I sometimes go 3 Days without finding a Block, and that's not a lot of fun. Finally please keep us informed as to current thinking on what the issue is, what is being tried, and what progress is being made? Transparency and information even if it's bad news is always better than being kept in the dark.

Thanks

Rich

transparency is always nice, and it is something that is NOT required of any business model or set up. no client or customer ever has the right to demand this. it is something that is either there or not. My friend is a manager at a grocery store chain down here and i was there dropping off something the other day and a little old lady asked why there was no X on the shelf, he stated they were out and more would come on the next truck, she asked when the truck comes and he said the next day.....all fine, THEN she asked how many cases were coming, he said he was not sure and would check, i was standing there and while he was in the office checking i read her the riot act. if she wants to know specifics about orders and what not, she should open her own grocery. he business is from shelf to check out and nothing more.

Ninja pool has more info on it than which other pool? tell me exactly which you are comparing because other than the pretty little pie, the info(not including round number and shit) is "current round pays", "historic pays", and "who found the blocks", other than who found the blocks, what info are you talking about? and if I want to know who found which block, i'll use a block explorer

So you are saying that you consider the level of Forking and consequent downtime of the pools to be acceptable and that we have no right to ask what is going on or what the progress is being made on a solution?

On the data available on ninja pools relative to the other flavour of Pools then yes I like the coloured pies. I like that the Miners names are shown. I like that you can quickly see who has won the recent Blocks on and off the pool. I like that the Current Round and Historic Shares data is clear and easily understandable and that it represents the Payout that you will receive as opposed to an unclear and typically large number that bears no resemblance to what you will receive. I like it that the Historic Share is based on the last 50 Rounds and not thrown away after every payout or after 100 non paying rounds.

Maybe the above is unimportant to others, but I like it.

Rich

i am sorry, i thought i was talking to someone that was in business for money and business, not the colored little pies and color-coded and named interface and i actually know how to deal with forks and non-accepted side chains and my private pool has been on the right chain the whole time. In answer to the first portion, yes, you can complain and NO they don't owe you anything as far as information because it is their business and not yours. Want info? Make your own token/coin, surround it with pretty little pies and even name your account. I am going back to making money, have fun with your pies. See, I am responsible for other people's money too and while the pool that hooks for them is blue burstpowernetwork.ml has a protected side chain that operates 4 wallets and miners that constantly use the same internal confirmation system that the Satoshi advised, that way we know when a chain is out of the box and when one is not