Quote from: obit33 on October 09, 2016, 02:42:18 PM

Quote from: rustynailer on October 09, 2016, 02:09:12 PM

Quote from: obit33 on October 09, 2016, 01:44:00 PM

Quote from: rustynailer on October 09, 2016, 01:32:06 PM

I am confused.

If Oasis did an exit scam, why are people crying fud in here? And correct me if I am wrong but isnt Oasis one of the two major dnm's to accept Monero?

We dont need to be shooting the messenger here, even if it is EmilioMann.

if the messenger is spreading outright lies (millions of xmr) then one can shoot him...

and rustynailer, you know as well as I that a market doing an exit scam <> rip one of the currencies that was used on said market...

come on man, I get that you have some sort of beef with monero, but please don't play stupid and deliver some actual critique, I know you're smarter than this shit...

best regards

Okay then,

Alphabay are now the undisputed largest DNM which makes them the tall poppy that Law Enforcement will be in no doubt going after. Its a centralized market and its just a matter of time before it is taken down or the operators jump ship. And without Alphabay, Monero would soon disappear into irrelevance as some far superior platforms take its place, its a one trick pony after all.

Yes, law enforcement will be going after them, so what currency would you use, a currency where a transaction history can be looked up? Eventually possibly connecting some addresses to a source address where you possibly needed to go to a KYC-process to obtain your coins? Or a currency that is fully private, has an opaque blockchain an your transaction history can't be looked up, so there's no possibility to connect it to your identity, even if you had to go through a KYC-process... Vendors and consumers benefit from monero in this case, als the dnm-owners benefit from monero in this case... I can't see how this is an argument against using monero? It protects you from said LE-agencies...

Why would monero disappear without alphabay? why didn't bitcoin disappear without SR? Why wouldn't other DNM's spring to life using monero... sure, monero could get a (heavy blow), but the use case will always be there...

I would love to see superior platforms come to life, but why wouldn't monero fit in with those? Do you really believe that a decentralised market intrinsically has to be coupled with just one currency? I don't, I hope there will exist lots of DMP's (to avoid state control/oppression) with different properties, and they will probably use different currencies...

I hate to see why people want some coin not to succeed just because they're invested in something else, I love competition, especially currency-competition, so why always look for a stick to hit the dog and try to come up with fake arguments (sorry, but that's what your arguments are, fake...)? Monero is the go to private currency at the moment, if something better surfaces, I'll praise it, but untill now I found nothing that is true competition for monero...

and it's not a one trick pony, monero beats bitcoin, technologically and 'monetarilly', bitcoin has the network-effect though...

What if there was a completely decentralized anonymous market that couldn't be exit scammed or shut down? The platform to take down Monero is already here. Umbra