Quote from: wdmw on March 21, 2013, 06:39:26 PM

Quote from: FirstAscent on March 21, 2013, 06:04:33 PM

Once you've done that, we can move on to force. As you know, buying automobile insurance is forced. I know you disagree with that concept, but it's reality. Can you think of other ways in which society forces things? I think you can. Please enumerate some.

Saying "That's the way it is" does not equate to "That's what's right" or "That's what's best." We have discussion to determine what is best.

Also, forced insurance is not universal. In New Hampshire, for instance, car insurance is not legally required, yet 90% of people have it. If you don't, and you crash and injure someone, you are liable for the damage caused, as you should be. So, most people buy insurance.

No seatbelt law, either... but people still wear those, don't they?

Quote from: wdmw on March 21, 2013, 06:39:26 PM

Saying "That's the way it is" does not equate to "That's what's right" or "That's what's best."

Just wanted to pull this bit of wisdom out to highlight it. I may want to quote it again.

Quote from: FirstAscent on March 21, 2013, 06:44:54 PM

So 49 states get it right, and one gets it wrong. Or let me guess, 49 states are wrong, and 1 is right? Seems like you are in the minority in your thought processes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

To paraphrase, saying "That's what everyone else is doing" does not equate to "That's what's right" or "That's what's best."

Quote from: FirstAscent on March 21, 2013, 06:44:54 PM

So let's see...

A non wealthy motorist without insurance hits another non wealthy motorist without insurance and the guy who gets hit incurs huge hospital bills and is maimed for life.

By your logic, it's okay to not have insurance, thus it is not forced. Therefore, both motorists were equally 'okay' in their decision making process. Yet the results clearly are not okay, nor equal, are they?

The result is the uninsured motorist is now liable for those bills, and probably for the disability. That's both OK, and equal. (Well, equal after the liability is settled.)