Quote from: JackpotRacer on October 24, 2016, 10:06:59 PM

Quote from: 3x1t on October 24, 2016, 09:47:20 PM

Quote from: JackpotRacer on October 24, 2016, 09:35:02 PM

Quote from: 3x1t on October 24, 2016, 09:25:25 PM

But the hash they get from mp is just the salted serverseed and without the help of mp, appowner has no clue about its real value. So he does not know if it would make the player win or lose, which makes that option useless for cheating no ?
And if the hash doesnt fit to the one used in the bet which goes trough, then the bet wont be verified I guess ?

I'm not sure if the apps actually even check if the hash fits to the seed used in the bet tho :S

So if theres a cookie stored in browser with a hash and the cookie gets for whatever reason changed. Does mp check the cookie when the user sends the betdata to the server ?

I'd guess they do, so with a malicious cookie the bet wouldnd go trough = hasherror ?

hi

I have the feeling you know what you are talking about and I find your questions very interesting and helpful to find out what is possible and not. really eager to see the result what could be done and who and how and if at all.

thx for that

Just trying to explain it to myself with describing the steps in a simple way, so that they are understandable for everyone.
I can imagine pretty good that it's not easy for a dev to explain himself to someone who doesnt have the same knowledge.
Usually they talk about devthings with other devs so its hard to even realize that the one hes talking to, doesnt have it and that it would make sense to explain it in a simple way.

That is what I noticed long ago in school of traineeship. Some teachers have knowledge but they cant explain it in a simple way. That ends in pupils who hate the teacher and dont understand anything. But thats a bit off topic now I guess =P

another very good answer and all makes perfect sense. I learned to ask and ask and ask again till I understand what I need to understand. but most of the time teachers or non teachers just dont have the patience or as you said they dont have the knowledge to explain it in a simple way. therefore I am askin many times for ELI5

and I am not shy to ask

lets see if we get an ELI5 answer to our problem. for us it is important to know if this cookie issue gives us the option to cheat? gives MP the option to cheat? gives a player the option to cheat or gives a scott hamper bot the option to cheat whomever

in short we want to eliminate any option of cheating if it exists through our app because we dont want to cheat and we dont want to be cheated

thx for your Q&A

Appowners can only cheat by tipping users balance to another account and show a fake loss. This however would be easy to spot by the player, moneypot, and with high amounts i doubt the owner will be able to cashout much of the stolen funds.

For moneypot there are multiple known ways to cheat. But the cookie issue does not have anything to to with that.

Players can't cheat Moneypot, only appowners with some promo's