Quote from: Gandalf86 on October 27, 2016, 05:51:28 AM

Quote from: DigitalCurrencyConsultant on October 27, 2016, 01:27:46 AM

Quote from: CC-Resurgam on October 26, 2016, 10:55:52 PM

I Would recommend NOT burning. simply because the coins would Not go to developers, but rather the community. it would allow the devs to test, give out, support and effectively promote the entire Espers Project.

i personally believe this could be invaluable for the project. but again the community has the final say. if the community as a whole tells to either to do it or not to do it we will listen. if it is a near tie, then the dev team will have the final say. therefore please voice your opinions, alternate solutions, or even a counter argument.

Something else to consider: "the community as a whole" is not all represented on this forum to discuss ideas. How many wallets is there? How many voices are talking.. It is a forum (not a election box).. Many others who hold espers by me strongly oppose this too.. so if there is a vote somehow we must keep in mind all forums and all folks who might not really be in crypto yet besides Espers and all those who may not have English as there first language. this is almost near impossible to decide what the community in whole wants. And how do we know if these votes are real votes how do we prove it.. This is a unnecessary distraction if not a impossible task.. It's just best to keep growing the community and espers

something else: "the community has the final say" I don't mean to be rude but the developers need to lead the way and they have the final say.. look at other projects.. Of course. But any successful project must have leaders and wise decisions makers.. Not blow by the wind voting or what's popular right now.. this didn't start out with rights (many just hold tokens and have contributed nothing. some have) just a common goal to take this to the finish line.. Economics aside any project to be successful it must follow it's outline. If we are to succeed we must keep leading.. (maybe not everyone will tag along) But to keep the vision we must not sway, right or left,, we must stay on course..

I agree with this.

@CryptoCoderz, I definitely see your point. I can also see how using unswapped coins for a "community fund" would make sense from a philosophical standpoint ... although the same argument from DigitalCurrencyConsultant applies to that fund, unless you have some Decred-like community voting you should not only base your decisions on voices in this forum (including me)! Do what is right. Cool

We will build in a voting system into the wallet eventually if this is decided upon.
In the meantime we'd setup a voting area whether it be this thread or a new page on the cryptocoderz website to accommodate for current proposed giveaways/events and community votes/opinions

There would be community meetings scheduled biweekly to consult each other on what events to run and how to run them. That are later put up for vote.
Also I personally would like to think Espers isn't a half-bad community itself, I rather like everyone around.

Quote from: nullroute on October 27, 2016, 04:38:59 AM

My opinion is we do not burn. It would allow the DEV team to focus more on the core functionality that will bring value to the project and to the coin itself. I do understand the PC aspect, but if the original holders had 2+ months to swap the coins and did not care enough to do so, well that is their fault. They would loose their coins anyways at that point, so if they go back into a "pool" or back into the community to help promote the coin, then so be it.

Im looking forward to the functionality of the coin, and not seeing the DEV team have to dedicate time to stuff that was already done to recalibrate / duplicate work. Im a computer programmer, and I completely understand what it feels like to have to duplicate work over and over because of various reasons. So I feel their pain if they have to redo all that work again!

I do not feel that less coins is going to bring value to the coin. It will bring quick sellers to dump coins for profit. Im here for the long haul, and i want to see this point succeed. This means Site on Chain, Secure Messaging, Etc. In addition the coin supply is meant to be larger than most others, due to the fact that the functionality they are working on will cost something to use. Just part of the uniqueness of this coin.

This is just my 2 cents.

Thank you for your input

we appreciate it big time.