Quote from: damashup on October 27, 2016, 07:54:11 AM

Quote from: iamnotback on October 27, 2016, 05:22:03 AM

Quote from: damashup on October 26, 2016, 05:25:39 PM

If well-established bloggers migrated onto Steemit...

They won't. Far upthread, I quoted a well-established blogger who posted a comment (or a blog, I forget) to Steemit, who explained the economics well. Bloggers go where the readers and economies-of-scale are. Medium has 25 million readers.

The hen-and-egg dilemma has to be addressed in a very well thought out way.

It is insufficient just be a good programmer and fake your way into being an experienced Internet marketer.

I think I'll watch it play out before declaring it 'dead' based on a few anecdotes during beta. I'm sure there were people that visited "theFacebook" and "Twittr" a few months after they launched and thought 'what is this shit.' Still very early days for Steem and Steemit.

As far as crypto tech goes, Steemit is a very interesting experiment with a working, easily accessible prototype and potential use case (a far cry from the vapourware, ICO crypto speculation vehicles that permeates the space).

Agreed wholeheartedly. And there is still some possible chance that ecosystem developments might surprise to the upside.

Quote from: damashup on October 27, 2016, 07:54:11 AM

Like any project, internet marketers can be on-boarded. It can potentially be done in a decentralised way, which again I think is a fascinating angle.

I would agree conceptually except as I argued in my discussion with @smooth yesterday, I think it can't likely happen because of the whale control and the voting paradigm for rewards.

Quote from: damashup on October 27, 2016, 07:54:11 AM

It will also be interested to see how Steemit's potential competitors fare (Synereo, Yours, Decent, Akasha etc.) in terms of attracting talented writers and proving meaningful remuneration to them.

If I have any success on my health treatment, then you are going to need to add another name with 5 letters to that list. Wink

Any way, I have already written the detailed reasons why I think all those projects are incorrectly conceived. I don't want to repeat myself. Those who are interested can go digging in my posts for it. See the "Someone please make a Steem clone" thread for some of that (more on cognitive load).

But for starters, I don't thinking blogging is the optimum priority activity to target for what we are trying to do with onboarding and developing commerce.

And in my analysis any concept that is paying rewards to curators or voters is destined to fail.

Quote from: damashup on October 27, 2016, 07:54:11 AM

I've yet to see a single crypto that has made meaningful traction in terms of marketing itself to the masses (I'd include Bitcoin & Ethereum). So Steemit is no different on that score.

Agreed. Steemit at least had non-crypto people and females trying it. That got my attention. It validated my concept that I had conceived and been working towards a long-time before Steem was hatched. Steem also gave me some new ideas and helped refine some of my concepts.

Quote from: damashup on October 27, 2016, 07:54:11 AM

If Steem/ Steemit is a scam (I don't think it is but that's the thrust of this thread),

I think it is sincere. It is just one of those Rube Goldberg concepts of Dan Larimer. I don't think he is intentionally setting out to scam people. I think he really believes in what he is working on. I don't think the term 'scam' is always useful in altcoin speculation. If a developer has a history of creating designs which fail, then that is what matters. I have a history (since 2005) of writing in forums and never producing anything. Before 2005, I had a history of not communicating and producing significant million user commercially successful s/w projects.

They have some good programmers. No doubt they created technology that works. But there are many excellent programmers in this world (although not many in altcoins).

Quote from: damashup on October 27, 2016, 07:54:11 AM

it's one which the crypto-community could learn from in terms of how to potentially reach out beyond the navel-glazing crypto enthusiast.

I agree with that!