Quote from: dooglus on November 02, 2016, 05:18:02 AM

Quote from: Dogedigital on November 02, 2016, 12:24:05 AM

What we found was even with our own knowledge of the server seed, it would take us on average 6 minutes to find a match within the range that triggers the jackpot using both incremental and random client seed pairings.

Don't you just add the client and server seeds together? If so, to "find a match", all you need to do is subtract the server seed from the result you want, and that gives you the client seed (modulo 2^32 or whatever you use). It took me less than 6 minutes to type this. I'm sure you could do the math in less than 6 seconds.

Quote from: Dogedigital on November 02, 2016, 12:24:05 AM

The reason this is significant is because the bets that were placed while hitting the jackpot were on autobet and were < 5 seconds apart (which is an almost impossible time to both calculate a winning result and submit a bet while keeping in rhythm the timing of previous auto bets).

This indicates to us that the jackpot win was legitimate.

I don't know what to make of this. Surely as site owner you understand how the seeds work. Why did you post that it would take 6 minutes to do something that would take less than a thousandth of a second in reality, and then edit your post when called out on it?

I'm sure people would be very interested to hear your explanation for this.

Quote from: RHavar on November 02, 2016, 12:55:51 AM

Is this a joke or an allusion I'm missing?

I've no idea, but since you posted that he has edited his post to completely change its meaning.

Original post:

Quote from: Dogedigital on November 02, 2016, 12:24:05 AM

Just to keep everyone in the loop, we have conducted several tests today.

Most of them were an investigation into the big jackpot win from Jackpotracer which started the whole momentum of winning.

What we found was even with our own knowledge of the server seed, it would take us on average 6 minutes to find a match within the range that triggers the jackpot using both incremental and random client seed pairings.

The reason this is significant is because the bets that were placed while hitting the jackpot were on autobet and were < 5 seconds apart (which is an almost impossible time to both calculate a winning result and submit a bet while keeping in rhythm the timing of previous auto bets).

This indicates to us that the jackpot win was legitimate.

Replacement post:

Quote from: Dogedigital on November 02, 2016, 12:24:05 AM

We understand that these type of losses make investors nervous (Moneypot too has a fair portion of the bankroll and absorbed building losses), so we are doing our due diligence and checking everything out that we can.

This however does not justify wild accusations against the player or against Moneypot themselves. We are opening up as much information as possible and encourage users to investigate in case they find something (there is also a decently sized reward if an exploit is found).

"We are opening up as much information as possible" is inconsistent with editing old posts to remove inconvenient information. What's going on, guys?

The tl;dr is that we were overcomplicating it. Ray and Ryan already discussed this in PM and clarified it. What we were doing before that was taking the server seed and randomly generating client ones until one got the result we wanted. Keep in mind this is after hours of combing through other data, analyzing things, responding to numerous requests, etc. We're trying to be as transparent as possible.

Doge's post edit was due to the clarification that there was a better way to get the seed. It was nothing about hiding information or anything, just removing anything that may further cause confusion (being that it was incorrect) by readers.