Quote from: ranlo on November 02, 2016, 07:14:12 AM

Quote from: JackpotRacer on November 02, 2016, 07:08:30 AM

Quote from: dooglus on November 02, 2016, 05:18:02 AM

I don't know what to make of this. Surely as site owner you understand how the seeds work. Why did you post that it would take 6 minutes to do something that would take less than a thousandth of a second in reality, and then edit your post when called out on it?

I'm sure people would be very interested to hear your explanation for this.

that means that my question was not that stupid and I thought it was stupid cause I got no answer
I need just to add now to my question if it was also possible on our Lottery and not only on bubbles
he used at Lottery the bot - would the split sec knowledge work when botting? I am asking cause I was wondering that he changed a few times to 10 sat bets and back to higher wager or to 5/25 and back to 6/49 but I am not sure if it was also on the day he hit the 6/6

but if MP or anyone ( I cant = n00b) can check his betting log on the day he hit 6/6 and he changed to 5/25 and did a 10 sat wager and back to 6/49 then I would have something to tell and it might be helpful

Quote from: RHavar on Today at 01:25:53 AM
Quote from: JackpotRacer on Today at 01:14:08 AM
would you please explain what you mean and what was wrong with DD explanation

I'm not really sure, I don't really understand what he means. With knowledge of the server seed, it probably only takes a few hundred CPU cycles to figure out the required client seed to win. (let x be a random number in the winning range. Then use a client seed of: (x -serverseed) % 2^32. Or i mean, if you're lazy and want to brute force a client seed -- there's only 4 billion possibilities, and it's a simple range check, so you can scan the entire range in under a second. But you don't even need to scan the entire range, as there's probably at least 50 possible client seeds (if you're randomly searching) so it's an extremely fast operation.

I understood NotTardy was betting manually at bubbles. would this 1 second check you are describing be enough to know many sure bets or all bets he did? or would he fire some gamble bets with low amounts till he gets the next big bet right? is this a possible scenario?

thx

Technically, and this is purely hypothetical, a second would be enough time if the entire process were automated through a script (script would latch into DB, pull info, figure out client seed, then push a bet to your site or whatever site as if it were a bot). That said, I want to stress that we have found zero traces of breaches anywhere within any of the servers, nor the DB itself. The whole "could they come up with a valid seed" was just a test because we're trying to cover all bases.

Your second question, about doing bets until he feels like he's going to hit... this has done people a lot of good on other sites but is gambler's fallacy. i.e., I remember back in the day when people used to sell pre-loss accounts on JD (not sure if they still do?), where you'll, say, lose 10x in a row at 49.5% and then sell the account to someone who assumes they have a better chance of winning the next since it's more rare to get 11x losses in a row. It was a pretty funny thing at the time, and haven't seen it since it changed to CLAM, but worth noting as gambler's routinely have their own processes/thoughts/"lucky" methods.

regarding first part of your answer I have to say that my questions are only asked to try to help and I am not pointing at anyone and thx for confirming that it would be also possible for a botter

regarding 2nd question I have to tell you that you misunderstood it completely and I know very well pre rolling gambler's fallacy etc

let me repeat my question and I would appreciate the answer to it cause you MP owner or dev could answer it

but if MP or anyone ( I cant = n00b) can check his betting log on the day he hit 6/6 and he changed to 5/25 and did a 10 sat wager and back to 6/49 then I would have something to tell and it might be helpful

my question is did he do this on the day he hit 6/6 or even the visits after the hit? thx