Quote from: Carlton Banks on November 07, 2016, 02:23:41 PM

I'm not the one trying to shut down discussion of the various proposed Bitcoin forks, stating "let the free-market take it's course". How is that supposed to happen, if you keep turning up rail-roading discussions about these forks?

People discussing fork proposals is part of the free-market process, whether you like what they're saying or not. If people like Roger Ver continue to act deceptively, that's gonna get called out. If you don't like that, the free-market is not for you.

The only thing I interrupted was a growing dog pile of insult hurling and accusations. I'm all for using forums as an open exchange of ideas, but that's clearly not was I was seeing being demonstrated here. See this thing we're doing now? This is slightly closer to resembling a discussion. Again, you're more than welcome to have your little bandwagons, but that's gonna get called out too. You call it rail-roading, I call it testing the resilience of your ideas. If they're as strong as you claim, they'll hold up. Just like Bitcoin.

Quote from: yayayo on November 07, 2016, 01:57:48 PM

Of course the market often results in vast elimination of bad ideas. Bitcoin Core already has convinced >90% of the market that it's the best solution. People already looked at the altcoin schemes offered by Andresen, Hearn and Ver and decided them to be inferior and outright dangerous alternatives.

The squad of paid trolls, narcissists and the easily deceived may continue to support Ver's altcoin schemes. However they won't prevent progress. The market is following progress with Bitcoin Core and SegWit.

Things aren't nearly as rigid as you portray, though. There's still quite a bit of theory and optimism involved in all this. The general assumption is that SegWit will be an improvement, but we don't know that with absolute certainty yet. The situation will continue to be somewhat more fluid until we see SegWit in action and people are satisfied that it's a sufficient enough progression to quell the unease. Personally, I'd like there to be a 'Plan B' available if it doesn't achieve that. So let's try to keep an open mind and see how this plays out.