Quote from: kiklo on November 29, 2016, 09:11:29 AM

Quote from: Temp_JayJuanGee on November 29, 2016, 08:54:28 AM

Yes, another sign of a misinformation campaign is attacking the person rather than the argument. And, by the way, I am not a newbie.. just having some issues with my regular account, as might be inferred by my username.

Substantively, I have trouble with quite a few of the seg wit naysayers, because in part, when seg wit was first proposed in December 2015, there was nearly unanimous agreement that it was a good thing for bitcoin. And, overall, there really is no major technical criticism against it - except for attempts at FUD spreading (in other words misinformation campaigns that play to emotions rather than logic).

Surely it would be a good thing to get seg wit activated in the coming 6 months in order that Bitcoin developers will be able to take advantage of some of the features and to build upon it and to bring more to end-users, such as myself (and maybe a large segment of the population that does not want to get into technicalities, as long as their value remains decentralized immutable and securely able to store and transfer).

Your trying to taint my posts as misinformation is strictly Bullshit.

I post my conclusions along with the Links to the Whitepapers and articles that help me form those conclusions.
Which people can read those links and form their own personal conclusion.

Where as you are the only one throwing unsubstantiated slander toward me to cover up your lack of actual information.
Where is your detailed analyzes with links to articles & whitepapers or is a 3rd grade propaganda tactic all you have?

Cool

FYI :
This Post says all I need to know about you, newbie.
You yourself admit you don't know Jack about SegWit. Cheesy

Quote from: Temp_JayJuanGee on November 23, 2016, 04:30:57 AM

Quote from: Barbut on November 22, 2016, 08:48:24 PM

My question is how to explain segwit with using simple words, there is many technical analysis, explanations. Here in thread people mostly talk about supporting segwit and how to support it, will wallet's be updated for segwit.
My question is simple, what is SegWit, what this actually do? What we can gain with using SegWit? Is there some simple explanation for all this questions?

I don't claim to be any kind of expert either or even to know if important points are being left out of any kind of explanation...
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I have been around long enough to recognize the difference between substantive discussion and distraction and to know when folks are engaged in snow jobs and attempts to drag discussion into the weeds rather than engaging in substantive discussions that get the broader picture correct (as well as the details, if they are necessary and relevant), and I have likely said sufficiently enough, at this point... because your seeming attempts to focus on the weeds in order to attempt to trick and distract seems quite apparent.

Surely, if you start to make some sense in some of your basic discussion of facts, parameters and logic then maybe I will spend a little time looking further into those substantive discussions (to the extent they might exist), which at this point seem to be mostly nonsensical distractions and speculations rather than pointing out actual cost benefit analysis based on real world and probable facts and decent logic.

Regarding the actual outline of seg wit, it was proposed and vetted over the past year or so (and maybe it took a bit longer than necessary, but that also gave time for vetting and discussion), and accordingly, seg wit seems to be presented as a very decent next step, especially from folks who are providing decent and non tricky explanations.

Surely, if some supplemental alternatives get proposed and approved, such as increasing the blocksize har limit or something like that, or changing bitcoin's governance (which seems to be the agenda of a lot of the nutjob seg wit naysayers) then surely reasonable and necessary changes can be considered, vetted, and then incorporated, as well, but at this point, the advantages of seg wit seem to largely outweigh speculation and very unlikely scenarios about it's supposed disadvantages.