Quote from: Holliday on November 29, 2016, 11:59:23 PM

Quote from: RawDog on November 29, 2016, 11:01:33 PM

Quote from: Holliday on November 29, 2016, 10:05:39 PM

Bitcoin means one thing to me: Freedom. I'm willing to wait a long time and pay handsomely in order to write into the permanent ledger that every full node must keep a copy of forever. I can use cash and credit cards for everything else.

Just because the application you personally love so much is well served by a crippled version of Bitcoin, the 1MB came later and is not a part of the original protocol, now you say everyone else's favorite applications can just fuck off.

Since 'store of value' is all YOU need, then other's concerns about deploying the network for other utility - are just not important to you.

Very dumb argument.

If we were still running "the original protocol" Bitcoin would be useless, so I don't really see any merits to that argument.

I never suggested everyone with a different opinion should "fuck off". What I suggested was that everyone can choose to run the software they want, and ultimately if you are running a version which allows for blocks of any size, at some point someone is going to have to create a block larger than 1MB (otherwise, what is the point of all this expended effort) at which point the network will fork. I'm perfectly fine with that. It will certainly solve this rift in the community in a hurry.

Also, let's not pretend that I'm the only person who views Bitcoin as a store of value in opposition to what "everyone else" wants. The community is clearly divided with support on both sides of this three year old argument (otherwise we wouldn't still be arguing about it). I want both sides to get what they want. Bitcoin's very nature provides a path to end. Why are you bitching about that?

There are different types of people who has different views on the subject. On the view of bitcoin protocols I agree that the argument between groups whose idea contradicts to each other will never end. But there are other side of the pictures, there are more users who have no idea whats happening and doesnt know what the hell the fork or bitcoin protocol is, maybe theres a need to educate this people on what bitcoin is and other technicalities behind it rather than arguing amongst ourselves who is right and who is wrong.