Quote from: Holliday on November 29, 2016, 11:59:23 PM

Also, let's not pretend that I'm the only person who views Bitcoin as a store of value in opposition to what "everyone else" wants. The community is clearly divided with support on both sides of this three year old argument (otherwise we wouldn't still be arguing about it). I want both sides to get what they want. Bitcoin's very nature provides a path to end. Why are you bitching about that?

I am bitching about it because SegWit and other altcoins come in under the notion that GMax has commit access and calls that shit 'Bitcoin' while he tells others to go start their changes to the protocol on a forked chain.

To be fair, we should fork today on three prongs: - 1) no changes; 2) SegWit and 3) BU.

ALL miners have to abandon what they are running now and EXPLICITY choose one of the 3 prongs. Miners who don't take an explicit decision will be mining on a CLOSED chain.

That system will work to effect a clear decision. Of course, two prongs will survive and everyone will shit bricks. But this is the only way to be fair.

The notion that 95% consensus is going to solve this is crazy. Just as soon as GMax realizes 95% cannot be achieved, they will declare 85% enough for consensus and invoke SegWit on that. Otherwise, we would clearly be stuck on 'no changes' forever.