Quote from: Seccour on December 02, 2016, 02:38:06 PM

Quote from: bahamapascal on December 02, 2016, 01:41:17 PM

Quote from: Seccour on December 02, 2016, 10:45:17 AM

And i didn't speak in the slack for month so how could you warn me about anything ?

Generally I keep out of these kind of discussions, but in this case I will post my point of view on this issue. First of I want to note that I do appreciate the escrow service you provided to the community.
Also I have nothing personally against you and I am sure you did not mean to come across as a troll, but at times your attitude did not come over as very positive.

Regarding the above quote, you where not very active on slack, that would have been true. But You did post from time to time, and it often was borderline trolling.
Last time was on the 28th, which is still in history: http://imgur.com/a/6hjfL
If you take look at what you wrote, you might notice that it was not a very positive conversation.

I will quote and comment on your slack posts:

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the guy i hold iota for is tired of waiting
and i'm tired of having iotas

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No working wallet

First of, you made a wrong statement. Iota has a working wallet (Nostalgia). Its not super user friendly, but there are many tutorials and its very well funktional.
Secondly, stating that you are tiered of Iota dose not come across very positive.

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last i ask for help i didn't received it

Not sure where or when you asked, but in general every one gets helped if they ask in slack.
I also PMed you after I saw this comment and offered you to help. But you never answered my PM, btw.

In reply to that,dom sad if you need help you can ask now. And your reply was:

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No i'm doing a fresh install on VM. I will not waste (more of) my time to try to resolve my previous problem

This is really not a friendly way of declining an offer to help. To me that came across very rude.

Fore me that is borderline trolling. But just borderline as I presume it was not your intention to come across as you did. And that was not the only inzident that you where a bit offending.
So that David PMed you, confronting you with that, is IMO not wrong at all. And if you would have just clearly and friendly sad that it was not your intend to troll, but that is was meant to be neutral statement,
I am sure this would not have endet in drama.

@Those that don't understand why this drama always happens:
In the case of the seccour banning, you might want to read above to see the story how I see it. Different perspectives of a situation are always good for the bigger picture IMO.

So why always all this drama? Iota slack is a place where rude comments are not accepted at all. Or comments that are just negative and in no way productive. Imagine being in a room With Google CEO and people alike. Trolling, or offensive attitude will not be seen there, and if it is, be sure that that person won't enjoy the luxury of hanging out with the CEO much longer.
Be friendly and constructive, and you will NEVER get in to a problem with the Iota team.
As a matter of a fact, it isn't to long ago that I had some critic/doubts about the iota project. So I told David stuff that bothered me (in a friendly way)...and got a very professional answer, that solved my issue I had. Reason I mention this is because many here just see the fights and might get a wrong impression.

Again, if you are friendly/Constructive you will never get any problems with the Iota team!

I didn't even bother taking dom help the 28 because the last time i was in need of his help he didn't even care helping me, same for Cfb and i did ask multiple times.

I didn't answer to your PM because at the time you send it i was doing something else and didn't have time to solve my problem that i have for months now.

If you think it's trolling you should look at the definition. I was just tired of that shit because every time i try to install that wallet or to make it work it doesn't. And when weeks or months ago i was asking multiple times for help about the error i was getting they didn't even bother helping me. So why would i even speak in a positive way ? Since when i do, no one help ?

It wasn't a wrong statement since i was speaking about myself.

And i didn't care about being rude because they were when i was asking for it.

And David PMing about it is wrong because it wasn't even concerning him ? Do i have to refer or explain all my statement to David ? Yeah i didn't welcome his PM in a friendly way because the first thing he did before sending me the PM was accusing me of being a troll here on bitcointalk. Without even asking for an explanation of my comment in PM before. And no it would have not end the drama because as his post on bitcointalk prove it, he didn't even try to ask for explanation, he was sure that i was a troll. Just look his first PM : "So did you finally decide to out yourself as a troll ?" - The finally say it all. That was his opinion about me.

" Be friendly and constructive, and you will NEVER get in to a problem with the Iota team. " - I know some people that were friendly and constructive and got into troubles.

" As a matter of a fact, it isn't to long ago that I had some critic/doubts about the iota project. So I told David stuff that bothered me (in a friendly way)...and got a very professional answer, that solved my issue I had. Reason I mention this is because many here just see the fights and might get a wrong impression. " - Good for you. You did that in public or PM ? Because one word wrong in public and you will be flag as a troll.

Anyway, before i wasn't getting help from the team, now i will not even be able to ask. Maybe one day i will have a working wallet so i can give back the IOTA to some people. But no, i can't, because i need other people node's IP. To bad people share that on Slack.

For your exemple with Google CEO... He will not even loose his time registering to Slack. The community the IOTA team ask money too during the ICO is not about CEO's and shit. It's just normal people from all backgrounds, all countries and that speak all kind of languages. If you want to hangout with CEO's and big corporate go ask for money to a VC next time. Don't betrayed those gave you the money and help your community.

Well I respect your way of thinking, can't say I agree with it though.

To answer your question:
"- Good for you. You did that in public or PM ? Because one word wrong in public and you will be flag as a troll."
It was in a privat channel with several other participants. I saw no reason to drag the issue I had into public, as long as it isn't impotent for every one. I am confident though that the reply would have been the same.

I think its best if we leave it as is, as we both seem to have a different way of thinking.

And last but not least, if you need help with setting up the wallet to make your transfers, my offer to help you still stands. Just PM me.