Quote from: yellowbrickroad on December 06, 2016, 08:45:09 AM

My story:
I'm holding KARMA since 2014, was buying it on Mintpal and Cryptsy.
I couldn't sync a wallet in 2015 that's why I asked bitwho to return coins from Mintpal directly to my account on exchange,
thanks to him.
Now all my coins are stuck on Yobit (their KARMA wallet is in maintenance for months) and their KARMA market has zero activity, it's impossible to sell coins or to transfer them.

The KARMA swap was announced in the OP: you were able to swap old coins 1:1 at the beginning of November, 0.6:1 currently, only 0.08(!):1 after January,18.
That means that when Yobit finally enables KARMA withdrawals (obviously not in 2016), people who have KARMA on Yobit in better case will receive only 8 percent of their coins... Either people who don't check the announcements regularly.

The Cryptopia exchange stopped old KARMA trading, it will be replaced with KTN.
So there is no even single chance for old investors who have coins stuck on Yobit (and the old coin is going to be delisted and replaced with the new one):

they will not be able to join all things you announce and they will lose all their coins (not literally, but they will have them inactive and stuck on old abandoned chain with no listing on exchanges, which is pretty the same) after holding them for years.

Certainly you cannot solve the Yobit issues, but it's not the point, the point is why not to leave the swap rate 1:1 for old KARMA investors who have no chance to join the swap since its beginning due to exchange issues. That would be fair.

Another thing that is not fair: many old investors are long term investors and many of them don't read your announcements regularly, but they faithfully hold coins for years, they were buying KARMA because they believed in the KARMA future, because they trusted people behind it; give them a chance to swap their coins in 2017 for normal rate, maybe not 1:1, but 0.8:1 or so, that would be really fair.

We understand your sentiment... we all came from the same point.

There is a solution for Yobit, but no one was willing to solve it USING THEIR OWN effort and coins. Alex has posted before even the swap began on how 0.2BTC can enable the wallet for withdrawal. NO ONE reacted to build that small fund. Think about it...should we, who have no Karma in YOBIT produce the 0.2 BTC while those who have coins in there is not even interested to provide any BTC??

Bitwho once offered to send his own BTC, I told him he can also do it directly to Yobit. Still it did not resolve the problem. No one among the Karma holders in Yobit reacted too.

No arrangement will please everyone.

KarmaToken is just an option. You also understand why it cannot be kept STATIC, because that way NO ONE will exchange their holding UNTIL THEY SEE PROGRESS, which in turn will result in NO PROGRESS because everyone will take the WAIT AND SEE stance, because there is nothing to lose WAITING and everything to gain. To produce progress, we have to do this.

Sorry, but we cannot do anything about it. You can always buy KTN when it hit the exchanges. Thanks for your interest. -east