Quote from: Biodom on December 10, 2016, 06:42:51 PM

A few questions;
1. web site says that you don't sell the miner to me even if i pay $1700 upfront for S9. I understand that technically you simply transfer the ownership of miner that you got from Bitmain/Avalon or place an order in lieu of customers order, but in the west it is considered selling and/or being a reseller. Nothing is wrong with that as long as you maintain the record that customer OWNS the miner. I would clarify this page:
https://sinohash.com/collections/miner-models/products/bitmain-s9

The website was built about two months ago when the price was higher - 11300 as opposed to 11100 and that price also accounted for the shipping cost, power cable, and paypal withdrawal charge applicable to CN users.

Bitmain releases new batches at irregular intervals and the prices often vary slightly as well as the per unit hashrate - for instance, they recently released a batch of 13.5TH model for 11,500 as opposed to the 11300 for 13TH model. So far I have yet paid too much attention to track their releases.

So yes you are right the price is not accurate and I deliberately price the unit slightly higher than I have to pay Bitmain just to make sure I won't lose money from "reselling". Still it is cheaper than what I hear ppl in north america are paying for.

I have since then been mostly preoccupied with building my farm and also began to sell hosting. When I talk to prospects, I always encourage them to buy the miners themselves and as a result, NONE useD the SinoHash website to pay for the miners - two used it to pay for 10 dollar 24 S9 trials though. In most circumstances, I check Bitmain's CN site when I saw a new batch released, I would notify the customers and prospects - some of them paid 0.05BTC per unit to preserve space. They then would specify the number they intend to buy, if they do and I subsequently place orders with Bitmain and inform my customer the total cost and payment address. They would pay on their end in bitcoin. So in the process, they just pay Bitmain directly and I never touched the money. Once the order is settled, the shipment would be dispatched to my address.

So right now the website merely serves as a information board & advertisement for the service, rather than the platform where the real transaction takes place, as it was originally intended to be.

Quote from: Biodom on December 10, 2016, 06:42:51 PM

2. Sinohash only promises to help cutsomers sell their miner on the seconhand market at the BEST available price. Two comments: how this best available price is/will be established? I say it should be be ebay instead of some underbidding internal dealer. Second, why no provision of sending miner to the owner or a third party? It might still be cost-effective.
3. if cost is RMB 11100, why the charge is $1700 instead of $1607? A small detail, but explaining helps understanding.

TL;DR Very good hosting price, high miner price (about $200 higher than latest Bitmain sale including shipping to US), not clear re ownership record, not clear re sending miner to owner, not clear re secondhand price to sell.

The process is that I get a quotes from a number of reputable dealers once the owners expressed intension to sell and then the owners will have 24hrs to decide. Of course I can send the miners back to the owners with shipping cost borne by the owner.

I have been toying with the idea of doing an exchange for people to buy and sell secondhand hardware to increase the transparency, but right now too busy with the sinohash project.

I acknowledge what you suggested are real issues and hopefully they will be solved progressively.