Quote from: J4bberwock on December 20, 2016, 09:56:42 PM

Quote from: Nikolaj on December 20, 2016, 03:31:46 PM

I even offered you to start a personal and company cohoperation, because I trusted your person and expertise, creating for you a portal in EU to support actively your products. We've talked about that here on the forum and on skype, I/you can publish screens if you wish. I give you my auth.

The other photo you've sent me, probably a month later (I don't remember, you should know the exact date), it's about the adapter on the motherboard that I've mentioned before. It's another thing that, frankly speaking, I am not even interested to, due the thermal needs and electrical potential issues on the other components (and even incompatible with my current designs).

I suppose that you're correctly referring to me, but I haven't received any kind of project from you. I am open to publish the conversation, given the fact that I have nothing to hide.

About the possible patents of my company:

- a new tipology of PCIE 16x riser
- a new tipology of cloud computing 16X motherboard interface placed in front of the chassis, and powered by another key element
- a new tipology of power delivery based on server PSUs, that will be able to power on, with ease and reliability, all the other components in my designs
- a new tipology of PCB to support the heat managements of the chassis that I HAVE designed

Do you see anything yours? These products will be offered in my systems, in my farm. I don't even know when and IF I will resell them outside, probably not.

Be careful with your statements, it's not professional to behave like this with your potential customers.

Now that you're back, we could have a talk on skype and clarify this accident. I'm a diplomatic person, open to cohoperate with a positive approach, and common interests. As I said before, welcome back.

Just to be clear, I didn't say that you took my idea and wanted to patent it. I'm sorry if it's what you understood.
As I said, I like your full assembly idea, and I believe the market for it is larger that you may think.

I was just pointing out that if your boards aren't new enough compared to what is already offered by me, others or my upcoming boards (DC/DC converter and PCI-E riser), there is no point trying to patent them.

The concept of the boards can't be patented, you need to use them in a new way nobody did before to be able to patent them.

And I'm not just speaking about my boards, but others breakout boards and the enclosures too.

We are anyway aiming at different markets and may be complementary, so I can't see why there could be an issue here.

Again, sorry if I was misunderstood, I would have made it all private if I had such a problem with you.
And I wouldn't have used a smiley in my first message Wink

Also, thanks for not posting the pictures publicly, the project is still in progress and both boards should be released soon.

Well, a phrase like that have got a few possible interpretations.

Given that I haven't received anything from you in the form of hardware, PCB projects or anything like that, a form or collaboration of any kind implies mutual respect, another thing called honor and coherence. I respected your person, your activity and your products and it's evidence it's shown before, to be precise in my initial offering. The patent thing it's related to a complex product and it's too early to talk about it, due complex arguments that sincerely requires other locations and eventually NDA agreements. If you click in my signature you can even find a photo of a PCB product designed by my electronic team, it's all trasparent and crystal clear (and it has nothing to do with the products that you had in March 2016, when we talked about a potential purchase of some of your products)

I have never robbed anyone in my life (physical or virtual property) and I've got a total respect of the other's work, so please keep in mind that the use of a correct terminology it's necessary, if you kindly ask to be treated in the same manner.

You're telling me in this moment that you are developing a dcdc converter. Even a riser? That's nice to hear, and I wish you the best for both of them but in March 2016 you hadn't anything like, or at least nothing that I was informed of/seen/possessed. I could be even interested, now, to purchase them and start an integration with you in my projects, present and future ones, for a direct resell or mutual use (with your credits/links/agreements/obligations/patents/licences/NDAs/whatever), obviously if they fit my needs and designs. It's called free market, mutual cohoperation and affairs. This means that you can do the same with mine, obviously, but being respectuful of the conditions and rules that we may create Wink

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My aim btw it's mainly personal use, the only reason behind these kind of designs from my company it's an electronical indipendence from china. Given that I am in need of a very high amount of PSUs, Risers, cables, chassis, converters, PCBs of a particular kind (that now simply don't exists), I need to build them directly.

It's pretty easy to understand, and frankly speaking it's the main reason. Such solutions won't surely be cheap to produce, I cannot and won't compete with china due the impossibility to compete with that kind of labour payment standards. The unfortunate thing is that I want a product better than that, because of I need to create something unique for my own, with the lowest possible failure rate.

A patent it's a complex thing, and it needs to be done in certain occasions, if the conditions are met without going against rules. That's what I told you, indeed. Different markets and complementary ones, my offering was quite clear.

If you've got something interesting to sell, I am ready to evaluate them; you mentioned DCDC's and risers, let's talk about them privately. I'm a person that believes in honour, words and shaking hands, and I like to create not destroy Wink

. If you want to publish my, 7/8 months old, messages, as I said I give you my authorization. All of them, so all the others would have the absolute certainity of my statements.

I've got absolutely nothing to hide and I want that this point it's perfectly clear, I take all my legal responsibilities for that. I accept your apologies, and I thank you for that.

As I said before I could be interested in some solutions, so I suggest you to contact me by email (send me a pm with your email, because I don't remember it)

ps: about the photos, I don't share something without authorization, and given my interest, as stated before, I hadn't even any Wink