Quote from: Amph on December 30, 2016, 07:52:20 AM

eh those idiots rightly believe that segwits may introduce some unknown security hole to the bitcoin environment, because it was not fully tested yet and bug can also appear at some point

if some sort of bug/exploit will emerge then you are forced to hard fork anyway, it's a gamble, it's better to directly hard fork to 2MB anyway

This claim is false. Once the developers figured out how to deploy Segwit via a soft fork, they've started developing it for Bitcoin (it was already a Blockstream project, but required a HF prior to that). They've released a Segnet (specific testnet for it) around last New Years Eve. Over time, there have been 4 versions of Segnet (IIRC), after which it was deployed on the testnet and actively tested/developed around April/May.
We're talking about 1 year of testing (up to today), 4-5 Months on a special testnet, and 7-8 Months on the Bitcoin testnet. That's as close as it gets to having it live on the main chain.

Quote from: Searing on December 30, 2016, 07:45:57 AM

hardware centralization imho ..same problem ..wearing a different coat.....

Similar, not 'same'.

I do believe that adopting Segwit or something similar that boosts TPS will have a positive impact on Bitcoin and it's price.