Quote from: af_newbie on January 01, 2017, 03:59:21 PM

Quote from: CoinCube on January 01, 2017, 03:41:40 PM

Quote from: stats on January 01, 2017, 08:19:58 AM

Quote from: CoinCube on December 31, 2016, 06:34:46 AM

Quote from: stats on December 30, 2016, 02:52:28 AM

But is says to do so in the Bible.... so why do you not follow the bible?

Stats I already answered your question but you may have missed it upthread so I will try one last time.

Let's look at another similar example.

Exodus 31:14
"Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death; for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people."

According to your interpretation stats we should execute everyone we see working on Saturday?
Personally I feel that such an action would violate the Biblical prohibition on murder don't you?

What is the actual meaning? I think it means is that if we work 7 days a week we make slaves of ourselves separating ourselves from our families and communities and over the long run doing so is extremely bad for us even fatal. The Japanese call this Karōshi literally death from work.

The following five minute clip from Prager university covers this in more depth.
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/remember-sabbath

Not my interpretation CoinCube.... your bible says so.

It was commented that because it says to pray in the Bible, then you should pray. I'm just highlighting the inconsistencies in the book by showing how there are many situations in the bible which tell people to do things which people ignore.

If we operate from the premise that there the Bible/Torah was given to man by a higher power than it must be a Logically Sound and Fuctionally Complete moral code. If that is the case it follows that the text must contain tremendous depth and nuance given its brevity.

The interpretation that the words "put to death" as means that we should murder everyone who does work on the sabbath contradicts the Biblical commandment against murder. Such an interpretation would make the Bible/Torah morally incomprehensible.

Thus it follows that our interpretation is flawed. The most likely source of error lies in an overly simplistic interpretation of the phrase "put to death" as I described above.

The error in your thinking is stated in your first sentence. You are making the same mistake as Muslims (or any other religious people) make.
Muslims advocating Sharia Law use the same erroneous argument.

If it was higher power responsible for the delivery of the message, all books revealed by that power would just appear instantaneously, translated into 120 languages, all in one instance, at the time of creation. And all other 'fake message' books would be torn apart by the same power, all at once.

Instead, you have a Bible, written by 40+ authors, over the course of 2500 years. Same goes for Quran, written decades after the fact.

If it was higher power responsible for it, it would not need people to write it, edit it, and translate it.

Literary works are done by people.

The foundational, basic science of cause and effect shows that God is behind the making of all books and of everything. What we are missing is the why and how He is behind it all.

The point is, God wrote His own Book by causing the writers who actually penned it to write what they did.

The second point is, since God wants freedom for us, while at the same time He wants to remain in control, God actually causes the things that we think we freely do and write, to often happen according to our wishes... and without us even realizing that He is behind it all... until we examine the way things work, scientifically.

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