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Science theory is guesswork. Science law is fact. So, science as a whole is guesswork. The wise person depends on science law.

You don't know if there is anything behind the wall. If you are in construction, your experience might suggest it. Smash through your wall to see if there is anything back there.

NO, Fluffer! Don't really do this. I had to tell you not to do it. Otherwise you just might go around smashing walls to see if there is anything behind them.

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You seem very unfamiliar with science.

Science theory is not guesswork

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A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed, preferably using a written, pre-defined, protocol of observations and experiments. Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge.

Even a hypothesis isn't guesswork Angry

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A hypothesis (plural hypotheses) is a proposed explanation for a phenomenon. For a hypothesis to be a scientific hypothesis, the scientific method requires that one can test it. Scientists generally base scientific hypotheses on previous observations that cannot satisfactorily be explained with the available scientific theories. Even though the words "hypothesis" and "theory" are often used synonymously, a scientific hypothesis is not the same as a scientific theory. A working hypothesis is a provisionally accepted hypothesis proposed for further research.

A different meaning of the term hypothesis is used in formal logic, to denote the antecedent of a proposition; thus in the proposition "If P, then Q", P denotes the hypothesis (or antecedent); Q can be called a consequent. P is the assumption in a (possibly counterfactual) What If question.

The adjective hypothetical, meaning "having the nature of a hypothesis", or "being assumed to exist as an immediate consequence of a hypothesis", can refer to any of these meanings of the term "hypothesis".

You might not see what's behind a wall, but you can use science to prove what lies beyond with utmost certainty

If it is not science law, it is science guesswork. It might be based on a whole lot of things that seem factual... it might even be based on science law... but if it is science theory, it is not known to be science law, and is, therefore, guesswork.

Using science to find out what is behind the wall is the exact reason I told Fluffer not to do it. Once he had used the science of smashing through the wall, he'd have to go to the trouble of putting the wall back together. It might never be as good as it was originally. Of course, if he is going to remodel anyway, have at the smashing science.

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What are you talking about? Religious people are the intellectually laziest people I know. They refuse to investigate any unknowns. Instead, they replace any unknowns with 'God'.
'God' concept allows them to stop thinking. 'God' controls everything, so 'we don't need to worry about shit'.

What I am talking about is the fact that science and nature prove that God exists:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

But atheists simply won't accept science fact. Rather, they accept as true, science theory which is not known to be true, thereby making it a religion for themselves.

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Religion and science do not mix.

Science that is not known to be true, yet is believed to be true, is a religion for those who believe it. Science is not supposed to be this way, but science theory that is believed to be true is religion in the heart of the believer.

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Science is about learning how the world works, develop new technology, progress. Science is cumulative. Science is reviewed and revised as we learn more about how the world works.

Nobody has to believe that science theory is factual. If nobody did, science wouldn't be religion. But because all kinds of people believe the unknowns of science to be true and factual, they have made science into a religion for themselves.

Quote from: af_newbie on December 31, 2016, 01:22:21 PM

Religion is about sitting in the cave, be happy it does not rain on your head, and pray for the Sun to come up tomorrow. Religion is fixed, written in a book.

And, really. It's about time you atheists and science theory believers came out of your cave.

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It offends me when people stop thinking, that is why religious ideology (it does not matter which one) offends me.

Religious people are intellectually DEAD, so stop pretending you understand anything about science. You cannot discern reality, you talk to your imaginary friend, WTF?
How in the world you can function in today's world is beyond me.

Science will unpeel your 'God' ideology like an onion, layer by layer.

This is exactly the thing that I am saying. But it doesn't seem to be working for you and many other science theory believers and atheists.

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You simply don't understand how the science works.
How is the scientific progress made?
How any scientific theory is peer reviewed, how theories are validated and invalidated in the lab.

What? Are you trying to say that unvalidated science theories are fact? If that is what you are saying, you have a lot to learn about science.

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You don't understand any science. You try to cherry pick it, just like you cherry pick your Bible.

You are way off base. You can't even tell the difference between science theory and science fact, even after I have shown it to you over and over. If you don't like Bible cherry picking, stop doing it... go out and get a Bible and get the whole thing into yourself.

Quote from: af_newbie on December 31, 2016, 01:52:56 PM

Very intellectually dishonest but then again, you are stuck with the bronze age world view that is constantly challenged by the scientific discoveries.
So you trail behind science and twist your religious dogma to fit the reality. But it is getting harder and harder...right?

If you would stop misrepresenting science, I wouldn't sound like I was intellectually dishonest to you. But you would keep on anyway, because you are just a troll who doesn't understand science, and barely how to think.

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