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Quote from: Quickseller on January 01, 2017, 08:26:42 PM

Quote from: shorena on December 29, 2016, 07:21:13 PM

Quote from: whothefuckareyou on December 29, 2016, 02:04:36 PM

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He gave negative feedbacks to reduce his possible competitors for his ACE Campaign.

How so? AFAICT there is no competitions for ACE. Its pitch is high quality, all in one ad service for the services willing to pay a little premium for that service.

Everyone that is trying to sell their signature space in any way is competing with ACE. Signature campaign managers also compete with ACE.

Meh, Ill accept managers. Individuals that can sell their sig via e.g. an auction would likely get better rates outside of ACE.

Leaving negative ratings for "spammers" helps ACE's narrative that "high quality" (or claimed high quality) posters are necessary for advertisers to use as opposed to "normal" signature campaigns.

Also if less people can participate in normal signature campaigns then rates for ACE would increase because there is less total supply of advertisers.

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Quote from: Quickseller on January 01, 2017, 08:26:42 PM

Quote from: shorena on December 29, 2016, 07:21:13 PM

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Neither can I, its not an abusive rating. I wouldnt give it though. At least not currently, if someone reads this 2021 and I changed my mind, sue me. It leads to what is currently common though, throw away accounts are used to sell accounts. This makes it impossible for account sellers to establish a reputation of good quality product. Good quality meaning, not hacked, not farmed with spam, signed message to confirm it was traded freely. This makes this market more confusing and might possibly do more bad than good.

I disagree with it doing more harm than good. Let's take a look at 2016 [...]
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I admit I have no numbers to back my argument which makes it pretty weak.

I followed up on the trust status of all the accounts I sold in July 2015, which was about 6 months since I sold the last of my accounts. As of then, 8 accounts had negative trust (one of which was for trying to sell his account, which is not something I agree with), and two had positive trust that they did not have when they purchased their account (all when using the default trust settings in effect at the time), out of about 135 accounts in total that I sold. maser-p was one of the accounts with positive trust at the time, and was potentially planning a long con scam.

So about 6 months after the last account I sold (and a mean time of probably about 10 months since I sold each account), about 5% of accounts had scammed (or attempted to scam), and another less than 1% was in the process of planning a long con, so maybe about 6% of my sold accounts turned out to be scammers.

I suspect that the above numbers will have since increased since then due to the fact that prices have fallen so much, although I suspect that real scam attempts by purchased accounts are still very low.

I would also point out the significant negatives to leaving negative trust for sold accounts (and alt accounts) for no reason other than the account was sold or a person has a lot of alts, as this is clearly an attempt to exclude these people from the community (not to mention the very low burden of proof that a lot of these ratings have used).

Thanks for the insights, do you have any data on spam or obvious signs of bans? I know its highly subjective, but it should be possible to determine a number for shitposters.

I don't, and that type of information would be very subjective. I did notice that a lot of them were inactive however some of those inactive accounts had recently been sold and were not banned, so I suspect that some may have simply abandoned their accounts and moved onto other interests other then earning BTC via signature campaigns.

I do think that I had one or two customers that purchased several accounts from me over time that actively participated in the community and would not be considered a signature spammer - I don't think they are around any more; I think one of them told me they were about to have a baby and I didn't hear from them much after that.