Quote from: Mike323 on January 02, 2017, 07:14:53 PM

Hello,
I believe this is my first post this thread. I've been buying Dash for about a year and a half now. I'm very concerned about a variety of things mainly because of the way things are playing out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but far the market is basically saying that there's really no competition between Monero and Dash and Monero is simply just taking over the so called privacy area of crypto that was supposed to be Dash's niche.
1) So can anyone please tell me how exactly is Dash better?
And I hope the answer will not be because of the voting rights from the Masternode because that would but the decentralization argument into question. I look at charts and numbers but I rarely read the go over the chatter, but if i can recall correctly Monero was mocked and ridiculed by the Dash team 2 years ago. But again I mainly look at charts and numbers.
2) I've been catching up with some of the interviews from the Dash team and it seems like they're kinda going after bitcoin. I believe that could be a grave mistake. This whole industry was created through bitcoin wasn't it. So if that's the case is, then why are we criticizing bitcoin in such an aggressive manner and even if we were right is it really worth it? I mean the results so far speak for it self.
3) Lastly, the argument by Icebreaker in my opinion was very constructive and yet it seems like the only response on this thread were personal attacks about his personal failures which have absolutely nothing to do with the content of his criticism. Can anyone refute his criticism? I'm a Dash supporter and I hold almost 2K coins because I really thought they were undervalued by at least $500, but after reading Icebreakers criticism and looking at Monero go take over the market I'm just about ready to leave the bandwagon. I'm not trying to be a jerk but these are just my concerns.

Hi Mike323,

You have a good understanding of the situation, here's a few more details to enrich your nuances.

1. Monero picked up the anon baton after Darkcoin intentionally threw it away. Darkcoin voluntarily abandoned its brand and association with/quest for privacy/fungibility. That pivot came after Duffield realized he could not simply copy Cryptonote's ring signatures and add them to Dash's feature as yet another gimmick/buzzword.

2. The Dash community is non-technical and skeezy (sketchy+sleezy) while the Monero community is highly technical and brutally honest/forthright. That bright contrast shows itself especially in situations like the (short-lived temporary) one where DashHoles like tok and tante foolishly spewed nonsense about how Dash's privacy is better than Monero's, while having little or no comprehension of the actual maths operating under the hoods of the two coins. The Monero Mustangs don't even bother with low tech marketing theater such as Dash's soda machine and (vaporous) Lamassu ATM. We should note that *IF* Monero people wanted to make silly stuff like soda machines and ATMs, these feats would be accomplished with much less hassle/drama/expense than experienced by the Evan's Gate cargo cult. Average DashHole IQ is around 110; average Mustang is about 125 (an entire standard deviation higher), which results in dialogs resembling space aliens attempting to communicate with barnyard animals. Mustangs tend to work high tech jobs in cutting edge fields; DashHoles OTOH are most often found in the service industry performing reprehensibly sociopathic roles such as helping the gambling industry parasitize vulnerable elderly peoples' life savings.

3. Peter Todd's savage "cargo cult" tweet characterizing DashHoles as primitive islanders incapable of understanding, much less inventing/maintaining, advanced technology is spot-on. The best example of this is Dash's hamfisted shoehorning of gmax's Coinjoin schema into the Masternode network of trusted 3rd parties (which utterly defeats the point of permissionless/trustless/uncensorable e-cash).

4. DashHoles are desperate. Their get-rick-quick scheme is running months behind schedule and even the dimmest among them have started to sense the Instamine Express is going off the rails as Evolution remains undefined vaporware without even a whitepaper, big budget projects end in disaster, and the ensuing acrimony sets the cult compound at each other's throats. That's why we see them attacking/rubbishing/FUDing Bitcoin (which in any case is rude behavior on a site called BITCOIN-talk). Never mind the fact that Dash is a fork of Bitcoin, DashHoles feverishly believe that's different Because Reasons. Their desperation and fear also manifests in being overly defensive, such as when technical discussion/criticism is derailed with forum sliding, ad hom accusations of trolling/scamming/shilling, and endless entreaties for observers to simply Ignore posters who fail to accept and amplify the prevailing cheerleader echo chamber groupthink.

The irritable DashHoles' condescending non sequitur responses to criticism is the result of them feeling ashamed of and disappointed in, rather than proud and enthusiastic about, their project. Isn't it funny how reasonable people like you and Stealth923 feel it necessary to coddle their easily offended and delicate sensibilities by beginning and ending your posts with disclaimers stating you are not a "troll" nor "trying to be a jerk?" Cheesy

5. I didn't merely make criticisms of Dash, I also made *ACCURATE* predictions regarding its market cap leaking into Monero's at ever-increasing rates. The accuracy of those predictions validates my information and analytical approach, demonstrating my socioeconomic modeling represents truth sufficient to beat (IE front-run) the market.