Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 03, 2017, 03:04:32 AM

Quote from: Mike323 on January 03, 2017, 02:07:07 AM

Thanks so much TanteStefana for really addressing and answering some of the concerns I have. I'll hold for now and after this reply I'll try and refrain from anymore engagement on this (bitter) thread. I'm not a DASH troll and people can mock me all they want but the numbers against our competition speak for itself.
Also, @Cryptohunter, yes I have just under 2,000 coins and I've been interested in dash (DRK) ever since it it was around $1 after the first bubble because I l thought it had real (intrinsic) value . I will not be dumping any coins anytime soon regardless of how much I disagree with their tactics mainly because I think it's undervalued. I don't know who Toaway is and although I hold coins I certainly don't consider myself part of Dash Nation. I hope all goes well with you though and thanks for your response.
If I overlooked any other (real) response then thanks to you too. I don't want to start a war of words, I just think Icebreakers criticism was constructive and I'm happy to have gotten a response from TanteStefana. I'll keep what I have and work hard to invest in others.

DashHoles cling to their "troll" accusations and won't agree that any criticism I make is "constructive", thereby telling you they aren't willing to interact in good faith. The embarrassing shame and disappointment they feel about Dash's shortcomings and failures precludes any healthy constructive response to internal criticism, much less negative observations originating from sources external (and presumably hostile) to their cargo cult.

You are being too kind in your indulgence of Tante's misinformation.

It's OK to point out the gaping factual deficits in her breezy pedestrian (IE non-rigorous) treatment of the issues.

For example, easily disproved whoppers such as these indicate Tante doesn't know WTF she's talking about (assuming the lies are not intentional):

Quote from: TanteStefana2 on January 02, 2017, 08:58:13 PM

Dash's privacy is not at the expense of a hidden blockchain. The blockchain is completely readable and verifiable, whereas Monero's is opaque. This makes Monero only able to do one thing, hide transactions from view. Dash's privacy is still arguably just as good, creating doubt as to where funds came from.

Quote from: TanteStefana2 on January 02, 2017, 08:58:13 PM

Dash is based on Bitcoin and has been kept up to date with Bitcoin's releases, Dash is able to utilize all the code created for bitcoin, and integrate quickly into new services provided for Bitcoin.

The first statement is egregiously counterfactual because she has been repeatedly informed of the existence of Monero's View Key. Her dishonest use of the weasel words "arguably just as good" w/r/t Dash vs Monero privacy is also intensely misleading.

The second statement is obviously untrue and easily demonstrated to be false. IE, Dash has *NOT* kept up with Bitcoin advances such as RBF, CPFP, SEGWIT, Schnorr/tree multisignature, sidechains, Confidential Transactions, sidechains, Lightning Network, Rootstock, etc.

Dash's codebase is a fork of Bitcoin from many years ago, and its developer (some guy named Evan) is incapable of porting and merging into Dash so many accumulated pull requests. Their excuse is "we decided RBF or whatever is bad for Dash" yet Dash still depends on the BTC devs whose judgement they explicitly repudiate and lambast at every opportunity.

Once Tante is done making untrue assertions about the present, she goes on to paint you a lovely picture of unicorns flying across blue skies.

Notice how many times she uses the future tense, with occasional derpy slips into present tense:

Quote from: TanteStefana2 on January 02, 2017, 08:58:13 PM

we are about to release the first wallet that contains the foundation for Evolution
Evolution will not be fully realized for another year
Evolution will be able to
these services will be done
Evolution will NOT be
You will be able to
I will do this
I will use Evolution
Dash will feel to the user
the user will be able to access
their account will look exactly
they will access their account
They will be locked
all will be managable
There will be nothing that Dash can not do
Even loans will be possible

We've already seen this movie a dozen times. Grandiose visions about revolutionary future events, based on nothing but Hope & Dreams (and GREED).

Promise the Moon, deliver the vacuum of space. Paycoin. NeuCoin. Nautilus. Dash. Each scam more obvious and retrograde than the previous. Roll Eyes

I'm pretty sure you are aware that technology takes time to develop. Sometimes, certain products or features will be a hit, while other items, they won't. Look at the histories of Google ,Apple and Microsoft. Developments get delayed, products malfunction, products flop. It happens and does not constitute a "scam". As far as "greedy", I can just as easily accuse you of being greedy by coming on here and trying to convince people to sell their Dash so they can buy Monero and increase the value of your holdings.