Quote from: neochiny on January 14, 2017, 01:25:14 PM

Quote from: shorena on January 14, 2017, 11:54:02 AM

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The account was just very likely sold, my question is: How do you know the new user will spam?

Besides: if the posts until now have been spam[1], why isnt the user banned already? Moderation is slow, but not 8 months behind slow.

[1] They are what they are for the given threads, you dont post lengthy posts in a prediction thread.

1. Why buy another account? Either for scams or for signature farming.

You evaded the question. Again, can you see the future? No, stop jumping to conclusions or present research that backs this up. Quickseller has been the only account seller, I know of, to have published scam rates and IIRC it was <<5% of all accounts sold. Im currently in the process of determining the percentage of spammers of these accounts and will present the data once Im done.

Quote from: neochiny on January 14, 2017, 01:25:14 PM

Then, wouldn't handling multiple accounts, whose sole goal are for earning in sig campaigns lead to spam?

No. Low quality posts are spam, its possible to write e.g. 400 posts a month (see Lauda) with it being spam. Spread them over several accounts and its still not spam. Join them in 5 separate campaigns and its still neither spam nor scam. You are jumping to conclusions. The account in question has not yet spammed, but instead of observing the account and report it to moderation once needed, they get a negative trust rating. Thats prejudice without reasonable grounds, based on opinion.

Quote from: neochiny on January 14, 2017, 01:25:14 PM

Additionally, the 'new user' was likely in too much of hurry to start earning that, right after buying an account grown on games and round, he goes straight for a sig campaign. Expect decent posts? Unlikely.

Another assumption. They make an ass out of u, not me in this case because Im not following it.

Quote from: neochiny on January 14, 2017, 01:25:14 PM

2. Spam? Or a farmed account? Or a bought account for Sig Spam? Any of which I consider as grounds for a negative feedback.

I dont, its grounds for a report to moderation. Which would currently not do anything, because there was no rule break, you just assume there might be one. Based on this anyone could give anyone a negative rating, just because there is a chance something might happen. This is not a trust system I will stand for.

Quote from: neochiny on January 14, 2017, 01:25:14 PM

Buying/Selling: Not moderated: They'll do what they will.
Trust: Not moderated: Same applies.
Feedback: Not moderated: Same applies.

Besides, aren't feedbacks just opinion?

If trust feedback from DT members boils down to this, it becomes worthless to me and I have to assume to others. Leave any shitty rating you want as long as you are not part of DT, no one gives a fuck. See my trust feedbacks for some laughs. Once you are part of the DT, get a grip and leave just ratings, not ratings based on possible future problems or mere opinions. I was contacted by several people and asked to review my ratings once I was put on DT by BadBear. I did, some I kept, some I removed, some I changed. DT ratings should adhere to a higher standard than opinions and "there is no rule against it". Theymos explicitly stated that ratings should not be left because of posting style.

Quote from: theymos on May 21, 2013, 11:23:33 AM

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On feedback pages, you can leave trade feedback. There are no rules for this, but here are some guidelines:
- List all of the trades that you do with people (or at least the major ones). This is not like #bitcoin-otc where you give people just one score.
- Do not rate people based on the quality of their posts.
- Older ratings count for more, so don't delete old ratings if you can avoid it.
- "Risked BTC" is how much money you could have lost if the person you're rating had turned out to be a scammer. Or, if they are a scammer, it's how much you lost. Use the BTC value at the time of reporting.
- It's OK to post a rating about the person in general, not tied to a specific trade.
- If you want to make a rating stronger, increase "Risked BTC". 50 extra risked BTC is equivalent to an additional rating.
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Quote from: neochiny on January 14, 2017, 01:25:14 PM

If you trust someone (you add them on your trust network) then their 'opinions' will matter.
If you don't trust them(remove from your trust setting) and whatever 'opinion' they might have wouldn't matter.

Thanks for the reminder, feel free to check out my current trust setting and you will see that I understand how the system works.

Quote from: neochiny on January 14, 2017, 01:25:14 PM

Everyone are advised to do this, so the 'trust system' shouldn't be blamed if the users choose 'not' to change their trust settings.

I dont blame the system, I argue with those leaving these ratings and everyone else that comes up in their support.