Quote from: Chew Kok on January 21, 2017, 09:27:35 AM

Quote from: Jabbawa on January 20, 2017, 05:56:22 PM

The fact that you ask and insinuate rather than just checking says a lot tbh. Why cast mud when it would take you 5 mins to check and read up about him and their financial situation and incentives?

David gave all of his shares away to the maidsafe foundation/charity - city kids and education is their area if I remember right. The charity has no link to the business other than controlling David's shares and some of the IP (defensive not offensive patents).

David is an engineer with a vision. He wants to provide privacy, security and freedom to everyone in the digital world. Unlike most dreamers he's been working on his big dream for 11 years (with a team of 15+ talented devs for the last few years). I doubt any of them are in a project like this for the money. They live off nothing in a little town in Scotland and they stretch every penny. Maidsafe holds well under 20M maids now anyway, they will make their money from the apps they build, not the ico coins - which are changed 1:1 for safecoins when the network launches.

If you have an actual issue, misgiving or criticism I'm sure we can play nice and discuss it. I don't know everything about the project, but I reckon I know enough to at least find reasonable responses to any issue anyone has so far mentioned in this thread.

You can clearly see from my history that I am not a shill. I've spent most of my time on here in IOTA thread and I am 'Jabba' on the maidsafe forum. I am clearly a fan of the project. Maybe I'm misguided and it will fail horribly, or maybe you've just made assumptions that you'll live to regret. I guess time will tell what the result is, but either way the upside makes it the best bet in crypto imo (whether or not it succeeds).

I don't care anyway, I have no desire to convince you to get on this train. Amazing projects don't require marketing (like btc), they sell themselves when and if they actually work. Wink

It will be amazing if SAFE does work, and even the most critical will then be able to see how obvious it was with the benefit of hindsight Wink

David did give away all his shares. That is why this thread is very dishonest. How many DEVS here have done that. Satoshi did... in a way. The fact that no money has been removed from his wallet is a big reason for BTC success. It acts like a float, and gives confidence. Maybe Satoshi is a team of people who created BTC and understood that this wallet should never be used. The NSA wrote a nifty paper in 1997 about electronic cash. http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm . For you conspiracy theorist, here's a name of one of the dudes cited on the paper... Tatsuaki Okamoto/ Sattuaki Makomoto/ Satoshi Nakamoto. Ok, that's a stretch. Lol! The guy or guys who lost money because they made a bad trade... sucks, but play the next hand. The maid community could be blamed for being over enthusiastic, but not a bunch of scammers.

As far as Spoetnik? I think his credibility speaks for itself on this one. David gives away all his shares and he is a scammer. Wow! Go to the main section and watch the LEGENDS discuss segwit, Economics, Politics etc. REAL LEGENDS have the ability to educate, because they have experience, and knowledge. Spoetnik has experience, but so what! Is he educating people? No, he's miss informing them. This is fake news, and that makes him fake. Do you trust CNN? If you do, then listen to Spoetnik. They both have no respect for the truth, but demand to be taken seriously. If Spoetnik knew all the information about the big projects, and critiqued them based on a variety of factors, both pros and cons, then he would be doing his job as REAL LEGEND.

There is nothing "wrong" with my credibility.
The worst i am guilty of is posting FUD too much and maybe being a bit dramatic about it sometimes.
Such as the negative rating the little Monero assholes gave me.. which i explained a little in my SIG Rating link here.
They were in fact caught up in drama and others posted it here and i REPEATED it summarized.
I posted a topic title using keywords plucked from the Monero idiots own words.
Apparently they felt that was misleading so that meant i was "lying"
How can a quote be a lie ?

Hate to break it to ya but i am guilty of fuck all because i am not scrounging around like a scumbag hiding behind Bitcointalk puppet-accounts for profits.
Any and all activity i have ever been involved with is 100% an open book.

David gives away all his shares ?
*IF true who cares does that validate the technical way this coin was launched ?
It is still an ICO no ? Or do the ends justify the means once again ? (the biggest cliche'd ICO defense retort)
By the way..
I keep telling you all i have been simply giving away my Bitcoin to dev's for free coding they do.
Further more i can rattle of coin names i am still a bag-holder of because i never did dump them before they ended up getting delisted. (such as CryptoBits and JackpotCoin)

I also have had a perfect trade record with users in the crypto world and gotten good feedback to prove this.
Any negative feedback was because someone didn't like my so called "FUD" and figured they would be a brat and *try and punish me with a negative rating to teach me a lesson.

And i am a Legend here.. i put in the work and earned the title.
Not only that but i did not game the system like many of you did.
I have known all along that there is methods of increasing your rank here faster but NEVER made any effort at all to exploit it.
Yup.. +1 cred for Spoetnik again Cool

Further more..

You are STILL causing a diversion.
You don't want to talk about this topic and instead are coming after ole Spoetnik personally trying to discredit me ?
Why ? Apparently you are highly threatened by my opinions here that you *claim mean nothing.
If that was the case i think you would have simply ignored me.

"he's miss informing them." ..you say ?
Uhh where is that ? Show me where i lied.
If i put a spotlight on bad things then it's you that is guilty not me.

And am i seriously still having my credibility attacked by a name changing NOOB Account here ? Cheesy

Who has credibility here ? Sure as fucking hell not the mouthy nobody puppet-account that showed up ROFL

Simple solution.. be honest.

Man up admit your shit, fix it as best you can and then move on.. case closed.
Clawing away at people who point out IGNORED problems is not going to help.
If it's not me who points out what i did it will be someone else anyway..
After all i didn't make this topic did i ?
..yet once again i am the one who is taking the wrath over it (this happens all the time)