Quote from: iamnotback on January 25, 2017, 02:42:04 PM

Quote from: CoinCube on January 25, 2017, 02:38:11 PM

Quote from: iamnotback on January 25, 2017, 02:06:41 PM

I don't believe fear of a God is necessary. Rationality will work if men stop being ideological sponges.

We return once more to our core disagreement.
I disagree with you entirely on this issue.

Evil is often Rational
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/evil-rational

Evil is not rational, when your goal is to maintain your culture. Anything which correctly maintains your culture is by definition not evil.

You think Evil is arbitrary because you have no goal to measure good vs. evil with. Thus you need some nebulous nonsense which has a muddled goal and outcome, e.g. the muddled outcome of how you have noted that the Jews have alienated many societies by doing parasitism because their religion says they can do usury to non-Jews.

Hitler's social justice most definitely was evil and did not maintain the society and positive culture of the white man.

For example, one evil in a correctly functioning white culture would be to fornicate with the opposite gender who is a member of the same culture and not take care of raising the offspring. That doesn't require a fear of God. It is obvious that the culture will be destroyed otherwise.

Fornicating with the same gender would obviously also destroy the culture of the primary point being productive and raising productive males (and women productive at bearing and raising children). I mean raising the women is just as important, but they are raised for different roles, both of which are productive and important.

Thus drunkenness is thus rationally evil. Not maintaining your physical exercise is rationally evil. Not having self-discipline and understanding the natural purposes of one's urges is thus rationally evil.

A culture of such men should not have a primary goal of competing against each other (except as a sport or friendly motivation) but rather to note they are competing against all the inferior external cultures which want to destroy the superior culture. This should be a culture of cooperation and harmony. Raising high IQ males correctly should make this more plausible. (We can't compare to the high IQ men we have today, because so many of them have been raised by parents who had no clue about the realities of nature and the culture they need to cultivate)

Conquest should be for cultural gains, i.e. incorporating the best genetics from external cultures. This can even be an entirely decentralized form of conquest, i.e. each young male off on his own grabbing some female(s) who are pliant (also serves as an outlet/goal for their natural hormonal surge at the young age).

I won't get any where towards that goal with bearded orthodox Jews, because they have their rationality clouded by all these pagan religious customs and rituals. How can one be rational if they still believe the bark on the tree is Holy and symbolism crap. Jews are trying to do conquest via usury form of parasitism. I think partaking of females is a more insidious form of parasitism.

Tribes did this but they didn't scale because they didn't educate their males and set them free to integrate into the knowledge of the world.

A lot of this makes sense during times of scarce population, like The Age of the Goddess, but not now. There was a time where humanity was rebuilding and reproduction was for survival of the species (note the handed-down lessons of 'be fruitful and multiply', 're-plenish the earth'). In light of your argument, this was a time where women were worshipped, roles were defined, but there was minimal violence - the violence came as the populations expanded and weather turned cold, forcing them to move in search of optimum conditions / resources. This was real climate change. Conquests were a matter of survival, not cultural gain.

Doesn't what you are saying sound more like Eugenics?

We keep looking at the world and thinking the current spate of shit is purely religious / cultural or that we are losing our culture. This is inevitable to some degree as the population grows and resources become more sought after. Probably why some are pushing for space colonization. The violence-as-religious war is only true for one side (the one rooted in a radical interpretation of Islam). The other side is doing shit for resources and geopolitical strategy. Eventually, if our population doesn't get hit by a pandemic, it will be for food and water.