Quote from: CoinCube on January 26, 2017, 08:44:14 PM

The fear of God is necessary to maximize cooperation over defection. It is not cost free so individuals who fear God must form a community of like minded individuals to maximize the benefits of cooperation. Ultimately there is no current or future functional mechanism more optimized for maximizing cooperation then a universal and genuine the fear of the LORD. This is why religion will grow and ultimately out compete lessor more inefficient strategies.

As I pointed out in prior discussion, this is appropriate for maximizing "cooperation" between weak enslaved men. It is a crab bucket mentality. It is thus very compatible with sliding into socialism, SJWs, etc..

Yes so many humans turn to religion because they are so weak. (And then why are we surprised that religion has contributed to megadeath and atrocities Roll Eyes

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But religion is not the only competing culture and it has not won against everything else. Even within religion, it has fractured in so many different belief systems.

Sorry there is no absolute truth other than the Second Law of Thermodynamics. I told you this a long time ago.

Indeed it is very difficult to minimize defection (which is not the same as maximize cooperation!!) over large groups without some top-down enforcement. Did I ever deny that?

I argued that a small, elite group of hypercompetitive culture could self-select for greater individual discipline, but that the discipline would have to be enforced on the females otherwise they would gradually degrade the entire culture from within. Because women do not have multi-generational evolutionary strategy in their set of priorities.

As for maximizing cooperation, the technological paradigm shifts are what move that forward. Individuals are always going to anneal to the economics of nature, regardless of what group enslavement strategy you employ. Religion isn't moving anything forward, rather it is a coping mechanism for the economics that are.

But even though I respect your free will to go into the religion delusion and even to pursue that evil, I wasn't really in the mood to start judging you until you judged me to be evil (I can hear your unspoken thoughts). See how that works? Matthew 7. Oh but the Jews don't accept Jesus' sermon.

Quote from: CoinCube on January 26, 2017, 08:17:29 PM

There are many positions you have taken in the posts immediately up thread. Some of these are correct and others are not but most are tangential to the underlying issue. There is also one mischaracterization of my position but that is also irrelevant.

You know that makes me angry. Don't make accusations without documenting them. Open source or exit the discussion.

I am here to learn. How can I learn if you don't point out specifically your issues.