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I want to ask two questions to the atheist followers:

1. If you are frustrated and very severe emotional in your life, what you think and do to soothe your soul back?
-Many cases in Japan and Korea, which states that many atheists who committed suicide because they could no longer control its spiritual side.

2. When you know that you are going to die (such as illness or death penalty). Are you not worried that after death you will be a zero point that will not bounce back?
-In many religious teachings that explains the process after death. But not with atheists.

Everyone is sad when he realizes there is no God

Were you not sad when you realized there was no Santa?

I got afterlife taken away from me
I was sad for a long time

But I lived on, because I live in reality, not in fairytales
If I wanted to, I could believe when I die 600 big boobed virgins will fuck me throughout a year
But what's the purpose of it if I know it's not going to happen?

I accepted my life ends with my death, and that's what makes it all the more special

Many scientists are sad when they realize that science has become a religion.

The proof that God exists has been around for hundreds of years in the basic science laws, and forever in the evidence of nature:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

If you believe in science theory, and that God doesn't exist when science law shows that He does exist, you believe in the biggest fairy tale of all.

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Your words are not the truth and are certainly not proof. They are nothing apart from your belief.

By posting your words as truth and as proof you are setting yourself up as a Messiah?

I wonder what your god says about that?

My words are absolutely not proof. They simply point at the proof in case anyone is interested in finding it out for himself.

Actually, it is the Messiah Who set up my words, through cause and effect. He did it according to my faith in Him. He is, also setting up your words of opposition, according to your lack of faith in Him.

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But you are quoting your own words and stating it as proof. Therefore, you claim it as proof. The reality is it is your idea of proof.

Cause and effect does not prove a "God"... you use cause and effect to assume it as a god. Your whole basis of argument is assumption.

Having no proof does not prove anything.

Did you not see? Just because I say that cause and effect is a scientific law, doesn't mean that it is. Yet, my words are proof in the sense that you can use my words as prompting to go and find out that cause and effect are scientific law... from the people who have proven that cause and effect are scientific law... like Newton, in his 3rd law. So, my words ARE proof in the sense that they are backed up by the proof of the scientific laws that others - multitudes of others - have confirmed.

While cause and effect alone does not prove that God exists, it almost does. How? By setting the stage through elimination of any sort of random. A person needs to consider what random really is. And I talk about it in my posts that I list.

There isn't any such thing as random. There is only our lack of observation of cause and effect. We can't see the countless operations of cause and effect - such as all the cause and effect actions by which all the individual electrons move as they do - so we use an artificial random to guess how things work. It is not true random. It is artificial, like when you toss a coin into the air, or roll dice. You use the term random to guess the results of your actions. Yet, there is no random, because it is all the forces of your toss or roll that cause the the results to happen the way that they do.

Why is the fact that there is no random important? It means that all operations of the universe, including life, never happened by accident. They were all caused. That is why EVOLUTION is simply change. It is never any spontaneous form of random effect. There is no form of pure random that has ever been seen or found by anyone. If you think there is some pure random somwhere, show the proof of it that can be confirmed, and has been confirmed by others.

Once you start to understand this, you have set the groundwork for the next two parts... entropy and complexity. Entropy and complexity take you the rest of the way to God.

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