Quote from: RealBitcoin on January 31, 2017, 11:44:50 PM

When I start un-ignoring known trolls like Franky and Rawdog, you know that times are very very dark in Bitcoin

I've had Franky in ignore list for a few months because I thought he was too agressively pushing 2mb. I also had Rawdog because he had some silly troll posts earlier.

But interestingly, they make more sense now than the Core Devs.

+1 LOL I just un-ignored franky1 ten minutes ago, so you struck a chord with me. Rawdog is a faggot, but he's made a few salient points as well. Yes, we've all been WRONG a few times on this forum, but this time it's Core who is WRONG, and they simply can't accept it. They just keep prattling on about how much smarter they are, and why if people were only as smart as them, there wouldn't be a problem... The best description I've seen of the current situation is from Rick Valkvinge:

http://falkvinge.net/2017/01/26/impressions-satoshi-roundtable-iii/

I stood up and made the observation that we (people in the room) are acting like a Toyota boardroom who are trying to make a decision that every family should buy the latest Toyota model. It doesnt work like that, I said. Were not the Soviet Politburo commanding a planned economy. The reality of the situation is that weve made the market an offer, and the market is rejecting our offer. I made the point that thinking the market should behave differently, no matter how good your reasons, is not going to make the market behave differently in the slightest.

also

I find it really, really frustrating that you have a room full of otherwise hyperintelligent people, who were told in very clear terms by the Chinese miners what those miners want about a year ago (a hardfork increasing the max blocksize limit for the present type of transactions to at least 2 megabytes), and today, you have the same people asking in frustration why Chinese miners are not adopting segwit when those miners said in bright blinking cleartext a year ago what it is they want, and it is not segwit.

finally (I believe he is referring to gmax etc.)

A further subset of people (insist) on the importance of not taking risks with the bitcoin network. This comes across as completely counterfactual to me. Weve seen a capacity ceiling approach for two years, and now weve hit it how can you talk about not taking risks at the same time as you completely ignore the approaching and completely predictable capacity wall for several years?

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