Quote from: kokjo on April 09, 2013, 09:44:46 AM

Quote from: hawkeye on April 09, 2013, 09:12:24 AM

My personal opinion is that socialism is bad because it messes up people's incentives and leads to less wealth overall.

not true. socialism takes of all the stuff you don't want to do(but other people might want), and there by giving you the opportunity to do what you like.
in a capitalistic/liberal/anarchistic/whatever society i would not be able to study math, because i would not have the money to do so.
in little socialistic Denmark, i am studying math, and im even paid to do so by the government.

was does the capitalistic society get: lazy depressed people.
and denmark gets: enthusiastic and highly educated people.

now tell me which society gets "less wealth overall"?

This is BS. Really do you think a lot of people love to clean dirty restrooms? Do you know how they solved this problem in Soviet Union? Oh you don't want to work, now either clean the shit or go to a gulag and work until death. It was a crime to be unemployed.