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Quote from: sbrzol on February 11, 2017, 10:58:21 AM

powerbet.io https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1710755.0

lol, powerbet.io deleted most of my posts 2 weeks ago and today they deleted the last 2 ones

They could delete these 2 posts 2 weeks ago but they did it only today

Perhaps they are in big trouble

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As i see you are an 1xbet/1xbit clone (on markets and odds with different layout)

You cant void bets saying that the bettor is an arbitrag bettor, this is bullshit

Some traditional bookmakers tired to make such rules that arbitrage betting is not allowed , none of them in businnes now
And of corse if you would have any gambling license then it wont take too long, if the bettor make a complaint to the regulator and you try to explain it you void those bets because of arbitraging

You have only the right to limit the user and if you detect he makes another account you can freeze it, if you have such rules that only one account allowed.

so you have to resettle those bets according to results

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Admin try to delete my post again , we will see it was worth

https://powerbet.io/pages/terms
As i see there is nothing about arbitrage betting in your tos

Which is mega lol because until now i thought you have such rules

So you have no right to void any bets saying arbitrage betting

Jetwin also using such words " for recreational players" but as I remeber they voided my bets because they were very slow to update their lines and they voided them before the match started not afterwards and not only the winner ones, so mega unfair from powerbet

For me is very recreational to get out a lot of money from the sportsbet industry via arbitrage betting, it is free money , very recreational , it is so refreshing for me Wink

Please define what means recreational for you powerbet , i am not an expert in such not common words meaning

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Quote from: Easternbloc on January 27, 2017, 06:06:33 PM

Quote from: PowerBet.io on January 27, 2017, 05:50:05 PM

Since we got his approval, here are just a few bets that contain clear indications of arbitrage betting (the 1st and most important is the stake value, than betting on double result - aggressive arbitrage - and - not to be ignored - the leagues the bets are placed on, which can also be a sign of arbitrage), of a rather long list:

Sc-esv Parndorf vs Ask Royal Sped Klingenbach Asian Handicap -1.5 Stake 92.27

Arsenal Tula vs Shakhtyor Karagandy Asian Handicap -1.5 Stake 51.39

Lokomotiv Moscow vs Cska Sofia Three Way - Cska Sofia Stake 40.04

Lokomotiv Moscow vs Cska Sofia Three Way - Draw Stake 51.82

The list can continue with stakes such as: 15.79, 8.84, 66.18, 132.21, 36.49, 94.05, 94.85, 58.61, 40.37 and so on.

For the punter, we strongly suggest this article: http://sportsarbitrageguide.com/avoiding_bookmaker_limits.php

This is probably behavioural pattern of an arber but its not actually proof that the customer is arbing.

+1

Another question :

Did you void the winner bets only or the loser ones too ?

Only winner bets. After last two wins my balance should have been 510 mbtc and thay updated it to 0. No details nothing and just banned me permanently.

We have this healthy habit of deleting useless "educated" (actually pure troll posts that won't change our policy against arbers) posts from random people. The arbiter complaint is there as well as our resolution to it. We consider this enough info for potential arbitrators to decide if they want to try their luck with us. As mentioned before, anyone can feel free to start their own thread about arbitrage policies of various bookies, including us of course, but please refrain yourself from posting such oppinions on our thread.

@OP, sorry for the intrusion on your thread - a very good one actually, but we felt this forum user that we quoted deserved a final reply from us. Maybe more arbitrators will finally understand that we have a strict policy against arbitrage, and we'll retroactively void arbitrage bets once deemed as such by clear indicators.

Hi powerbet,

Thanks for posting and feel free to post at any time.

The recreational bettor only clause is standard and used by most books.

As far as arbs go, are you talking in-house arbs where the player buys back the other side at powerbet to gain a profit. All bets are at powerbet? If that's the case, then you can cancel wagers.

If you are assuming that a player is an arbitrage player using powerbet with another book, then the accusation of a player being an arbitrage bettor isn't valid.

As far as the bonus goes, when a book has 100% bonus with an 8x rollover, it's going to draw many that multi-account. A book that accuses a player of multi-accounting must have air tight evidence that the player did indeed break the rules by multi-accounting.

This thread is a player protection thread. The rules that you have in place that have been invoked are for lower tiered books that should be avoided. Top books do not confiscate winnings.

You can ban a player, limit a player, but never confiscate winnings. A book that cancels winners free rolls players. The book keeps the losers and voids the winners. This isn't acceptable.

The only post by powerbet in this thread is included above.