Quote from: Rikard on February 17, 2017, 08:26:28 PM

SCAM1 + SCAM 2 + SCAM 3 = UBIQ SCAM Angry

the accusation being that the Sarcoin company is pumping Ubiq? Thing is, you can't prove that somebody isn't pumping something. But knowing all the Ubiq devs for several years, I can say this isn't the case.

I imagine that Luke will address this if he sees fit, but fwiw, here's what I understand from having talked to Luke in the past. Sarcoin is an MLM, that's never been a secret (to be clear, an MLM is different than a ponzi). The company was working with GRC, but the spanish guys weren't too savvy about crypto scammers and I guess the GRC devs were kinda' sketch. So they distanced themselves from that, started SAR, let people still holding GRC trade out for SAR, and then hired Luke since Luke actually knows shit about crypto.

Luke gets to travel a lot for work, and naturally when he does so for crypto conferences, he brings up Ubiq as well. Personally, I only see this as a perk, as it spreads awareness of Ubiq to a lot of foreign markets. I've been following Julian and Luke's work on JBS/UBQ for 3+ years and can guarantee (yeah, I know that guarantees from anonymous internet strangers aren't worth much) that it's not a "scam" (that word gets thrown around far too much).

Also, while I'm logged into the cesspit that is Bitcointalk, Gembitz is just a spammy fuck. Anybody who has done their due diligence knows he's not affiliated with the Ubiq devs or community whatsoever. In fact, he's banned from our Slack community for harassment, lying, attempted extortion, and (of course) spamming. You can see here he pulled a similar strategy with moneypot/bustabit, trying to extort them by being annoying and lying. http://imgur.com/a/HGq34

Bitcointalk is something of a necessary evil, and while I commend the Ubiq devs for running an unmoderated thread, it's unfortunate to see spammers take advantage of that. The best place to learn more about Ubiq, the community, the devs, and projects in the pipeline check out ubiqsmart.com, or join our slack community of 950+ members and start a conversation

While I'm not a member of the Ubiq team (just a member of the Ubiq community), I'm always glad to answer any DMs on Twitter also: https://twitter.com/Sicarious_