Quote from: kiklo on February 18, 2017, 08:43:39 AM

Charlie Lee claims he can force segwit on them no matter how the miner vote.
http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/02/17/charlie-lee-potentially-enforcing-litecoin-segwit-activation-bitcoiners-concerned/

coblee and gmaxwell do have a trick up their sleeve.
its called a bilateral split. commonly known as an intentional altcoin creation.

yep both know that they can cause a bilateral split even in a soft scenario

Quote from: coblee

Of course I would rather we all work together for the best for Litecoin. But the checks and balances that exists within Bitcoin/Litecoin gives users the ability to overrule miners if needed. Most people are not aware of this and think that miners are in control.

Quote from: gmaxwell on December 28, 2016, 05:40:35 AM

If there is some reason when the users of Bitcoin would rather have it activate at 90% .. then even with the 95% rule the network could choose to activate it at 90% just by orphaning the blocks of the non-supporters until 95%+ of the remaining blocks signaled activation.

yep.. they are willing to cause an intentional altcoin to get segwit activated..even in a soft scenario

yet. if willing to go to the extremes of causing an alt to get what they want. they should have saved 2 years of bickering and just went with a PROPER full node and pool consensus which would not result naturally in an altcoin.
(but with the same stupid chance some numpty might want to push the issue into causing an altcoin, which they now admit is the same for soft)

that way by doing a full node AND pool consensus they could have also included the features the community really wanted in the first place. thus giving the entire network a real confidence of positive movement of onchain scaling.