Quote from: A.M. on February 20, 2017, 03:53:11 PM

Quote from: cryptohunter on February 20, 2017, 02:48:50 PM

Quote from: A.M. on February 20, 2017, 01:13:37 PM

Quote from: asphyxia on February 20, 2017, 10:01:25 AM

Quote from: dzimbeck on February 20, 2017, 07:16:52 AM

Quote from: asphyxia on February 19, 2017, 11:35:51 PM

Quote from: cryptohunter on February 19, 2017, 10:45:16 PM

It's their fault they got scammed and you get to keep the BTC and charge them over again for something they thought they were getting the first time. I see how it is. It's their fault and no responsibility for this can be pointed in your direction at all.

I take your point though that it is open to the abuse you suggest.

It seems you have little faith this person you went into business with after all.

I wonder how many vidz have been confiscated in this manner away from investors.

I hope this ICO is water tight for the investors because your empathy for YOUR previous investors is pretty poor... from you and the escrow.

If you're going to put words in my mouth, don't expect a proper response when you're not even reading them.

I love hearing this accusation that I have no empathy for people who lost money but last I checked there's a 50% swap so that people who would rather support my project and reap the rewards my project produces they can do so without spending any more money than they already have.

Such empathy, very fashion, so crypto... yeah you start a new ICO get some Bitcoins and then let them burn their coins from the project that you walked out on(giving them no chance to sell said tokens on vidz) which also raised Bitcoins which went to you not including any vidz you held.

But sure, its easy to be empathetic when it pays the bills. How about starting a new project and give the coins out for free to anyone holding an address in vidz? Not raising funds with a new ICO and not asking them to burn another coin? Hell you could even give yourself 5% of the staked coins.

Oh yeah thats right because doing that doesn't get you more Bitcoins.

A real man would not charge investors that just got burned. But thats just a subjective opinion, carry on.

I'm not here to debate what "a real man does" and I'm not sure who's been feeding you information but it sounds like you have half the story? I don't possess all of what was raised in that crowdfund and it's not my fault that project is in shambles especially when I wasn't the leader of it. Unfortunately, many people aren't willing to exactly work for free and I'm not talking about myself here but referring to the costs of graphic designers, other programmers, lawyers, etc.

And about selling...

I'm not here to give people trading advice either but the word hedge comes to mind.

Pay no attention to zimbeck this person has been sniffing ass and forgot to actually get the facts before jumping the gun for his number one fan cryptohunter. You giving them thick as shit bag holders a way out when you don't need to shows your true colors, not dumping the damn 150+btc worth of vidz that you could have easily does also. I mean what bad man leaves 150btc on the table that was ready to take lmao! Thick as shit majority of this forum, includes so called legendary members.

Shhh grasshopper... nobody wants to hear you personal comments and childish remarks.

Obviously to me you have some unseen attachment to this project.

Calling david zimbeck thick.... lol Please grasp that kind of remark is going to get you zero credibility. Who are you to comment on any other persons intelligence since your wild assumptions and one sided approach suggests you're not worthy to mention proven conceptual designers and coders here without asking permission first.

Stick to discussing the facts and we may deem you worthy of a response. Constantly swearing and using foul language is not the way to operate here.

So let's break your nonsensical rant down and try to extract something worthy of debating.

Thick as shit bag holders ( his previous investors) ? is that who you are referring too?

Not dumping 150 BTC worth of vidz? - not even worth responding too since i tried to explain to you before you have no knowledge of who bought or owned what do you? NO well then any volume you can see means nothing. The devs could have a lot more vidz than you assume. The volume you witness means nothing. You know not if he already dumped or could not dump for fresh BTC. These are assumptions you make based upon nothing. You seem pro novus to the extent of being heavily invested or part of the scam.

You have no facts... nobody here can even present as a fact this person is not as many suspect PV ...all other unproven nonsense you're spouting out are also not facts.

Now if you wish to discuss facts then I am open to engage you. However if you're just wanting to shout childish remarks littered with swearing and other foul language then don't bother to reply. Your comments are noise and nothing else. You appear to me to be fanatical over this project to the point extending and presenting wild assumptions that make you seem like a scam facilitator.

When you are privy to practically zero facts regarding and ICO held on this board all assumptions you are making are null and void. Try to get your mind around this since you're so much smarter than other people here.

There will be possible scams available to those that operate behind the scenes that you could not think up given the rest of your life.

You dribble on and on and on and on with nothing being said, its actually quite fascinating.

Where did I call your master zimbeck the butt sniffer thick exactly?

Hey, when you have twice the amount the shitty ICO raised in an alt that could be dumped on the exchange, that is something to talk about so don't try censor me ya butt sniffing faggot.

You like to direct the argument to where you think you are big dick, but you're not big dick. Nothing you have said is factual so I have had enough of reading your long winded padded garbage posts.

Yes me speaking out against people like you instantly means I am part of the project that you scream scam without backing that up. Nothing to do with investing and given the chance to burn my vidz. You know best almighty legendary member.

You have no idea what I can and cannot think in a life time but I will give you ya do, you know everything else after all Grin

1, fact... novus dev never had to give 50% of his project away but he did.

2, fact... novus dev could have dumped his part of the dev fund before making the situation public. In the process gaining more btc than the entire project raised. He never.

3, fact.... there will hopefully be a working product before the next round of funding? That sounds like someone who is in for the duration.

4, fact.. You're now ignored.

You dribble on and on and on and on with nothing being said, its actually quite fascinating.

If there was nothing said why reply. I said plenty have another read.

Where did I call your master zimbeck the butt sniffer thick exactly?

Ha, soon backed off there didn't you else face public humiliation in the face of a far superior intellect.

Hey, when you have twice the amount the shitty ICO raised in an alt that could be dumped on the exchange, that is something to talk about so don't try censor me ya butt sniffing faggot.

More childish swearing and nothing of substance in light of what I have just described to you was indeed possible. Either you don't understand or do not want to understand.

You like to direct the argument to where you think you are big dick, but you're not big dick. Nothing you have said is factual so I have had enough of reading your long winded padded garbage posts.

The facts are plain to see hence why we are in this situation. Re-read my post since you have missed these facts. If you want me to list them for you please ask.

Yes me speaking out against people like you instantly means I am part of the project that you scream scam without backing that up. Nothing to do with investing and given the chance to burn my vidz. You know best almighty legendary member.

Speaking out against people complaining about being scammed = you're complicit with the scam. People who bought at the ICO from this dev and now can not withdraw their coins have been scammed. They paid this dev for the coins they have no been able to take delivery even though there was no deadline. Therefore = scammed. It is less their fault they can not retrieve them that it is his fault he can not verify the values of his previous project website are correct. If he refunds their btc he has lost nothing. If he does not they have lost BTC and he has gained.

You have no idea what I can and cannot think in a life time but I will give you ya do, you know everything else after all

You're half correct there.

Well done there was a reduction in the swearing and childish remarks but still I see nothing of note that I had not covered before with you.