@bdonlan, Regardless of what you have done in the past Doge Dice is not a judge nor a jury and have no say in what you do with your funds. On legal grounds you have the right to sue them for your property and at this amount it is a felony theft in most places.
@Doge Dice, your options legally are this. Have him withdraw his funds and then ban his account if you don't want him there, or unlock his funds and let him play.
I don't care what peoples opinions are, the basic fact of the matter is Doge Dice does not have any legal basis to steal his property or disburse his property how they see fit. I would sue the living fuck out of them if they did this to me.
I still have BTC in my back pocket, if I don't get a withdrawsl within 48 hours I already plan on seeking legal advice. Obviously I'm not going to let $45k that I rightfully earned be stolen. Alex and anyone else can presentl any information or evidence for the "scams" in court, I already have all the proof I need to defend my actions, if I didn't, then I would not be sitting here defending myself right now.
In my opinion, you should not hold his funds unless there was monetary loss to you, the casino or the users of the casino. Sure, this guy is a scamster and many accounts of his have been frozen / flagged. The other way i see about dealing with this issue, is if you find out he scammed anyone else during the multitude of HYIP schemes he ran or any other scams he ran, and you find someone who lost money without being warned about the chances of losses. This would be a very long road and frankly, i don't think you would be able to find such people because 2-3 years is a long time and many of those accounts may have closed by now.
So in closing, if he has caused monetary loss to you, the casino or its users, you have a right to recover those costs and pay him back his balance. Hijacking his funds may not be the best approach imo.
I warned chance of loss in every tos on every site. I knew very well that by giving a guarantee or not stating risks at least somehwhere on the site would land me in trouble. Of course I have all sites backed up as well as copies of every tos for each site.
Again, anyone who participated in the programs agreed to the terms of service which clearly stated the risks.
That's funny how you rely on ToS to scam people. If you are so strictly guided by the ToS, shall we confiscate all funds as you have broken BitDice's ToS, by having THREE accounts on BitDice Casino:
A User may only have one Account with the Website and shall only use the Website using such single account. It is prohibited for a User to open multiple accounts with the Company. In the event that the Website becomes aware of additional accounts opened by a User, BitDice Casino S.L.R. may close such additional accounts without notice and may confiscate funds held in such additional accounts.
If You breach any provision of these Agreement or BitDice Casino S.L.R has a reasonable ground to suspect that You have breached them, BitDice Casino S.L.R reserves the right not to open, suspend, close Your Account, withhold payment of your winnings and apply such funds on account of any damages due by You.
Site looks pretty good. Might try playing here some time, after more stuff is released. I took a look into your TOS and am wondering about this term:
6. A User may only have one Account with the Website and shall only use the Website using such single account. It is prohibited for a User to open multiple accounts with the Company. In the event that the Website becomes aware of additional accounts opened by a User, BitDice Casino S.L.R. may close such additional accounts without notice and may confiscate funds held in such additional accounts.
Why bother having that term? Seems like a reason just to take users funds. You should know that some people like having a "bank" account when they gamble (not sure if a lot of people do that on BitDice, but I've seen a bunch of people used that on PrimeDice).
We need a legal term which we can use to terminate user account, in case he tries to farm faucet or breaks some other rules. Without this rule in ToS I simply have no legal way to close such accounts and forfeit funds.
I would never close account when it's being used as bank or in other ways which aren't breaking our terms.
Regards,
Alex.
I can't login to my account, therefor it's considered closed. I have not legally broken any rules at the time I played and won my funds. The last time I accessed a duplicate account was 3 months ago and I made the chat aware it was me, I was not aware multiple accounts were not allowed. Again, this was over 3 months ago, I've been using blackjack since v4 was released.
@bdonlan, Regardless of what you have done in the past Doge Dice is not a judge nor a jury and have no say in what you do with your funds. On legal grounds you have the right to sue them for your property and at this amount it is a felony theft in most places.
@Doge Dice, your options legally are this. Have him withdraw his funds and then ban his account if you don't want him there, or unlock his funds and let him play.
I don't care what peoples opinions are, the basic fact of the matter is Doge Dice does not have any legal basis to steal his property or disburse his property how they see fit. I would sue the living fuck out of them if they did this to me.
We have. He broke our ToS, we are allowed to close account and seize funds.
Regards,
Alex.
Why didn't you close my account there and then 3 months ago? I even made the chat aware that it was blackjacks alt, I didn't hide it. Again, this was 3 months ago and now all of a sudden this is your reason for seizing my funds?
If this is your final decision, tell me now, and I will continue taking what I think is necessary action to getting my coins back
That's funny how you rely on ToS to scam people. If you are so strictly guided by the ToS, shall we confiscate all funds as you have broken BitDice's ToS, by having THREE accounts on BitDice Casino:
A User may only have one Account with the Website and shall only use the Website using such single account. It is prohibited for a User to open multiple accounts with the Company. In the event that the Website becomes aware of additional accounts opened by a User, BitDice Casino S.L.R. may close such additional accounts without notice and may confiscate funds held in such additional accounts.
If You breach any provision of these Agreement or BitDice Casino S.L.R has a reasonable ground to suspect that You have breached them, BitDice Casino S.L.R reserves the right not to open, suspend, close Your Account, withhold payment of your winnings and apply such funds on account of any damages due by You.
Site looks pretty good. Might try playing here some time, after more stuff is released. I took a look into your TOS and am wondering about this term:
6. A User may only have one Account with the Website and shall only use the Website using such single account. It is prohibited for a User to open multiple accounts with the Company. In the event that the Website becomes aware of additional accounts opened by a User, BitDice Casino S.L.R. may close such additional accounts without notice and may confiscate funds held in such additional accounts.
Why bother having that term? Seems like a reason just to take users funds. You should know that some people like having a "bank" account when they gamble (not sure if a lot of people do that on BitDice, but I've seen a bunch of people used that on PrimeDice).
We need a legal term which we can use to terminate user account, in case he tries to farm faucet or breaks some other rules. Without this rule in ToS I simply have no legal way to close such accounts and forfeit funds.
I would never close account when it's being used as bank or in other ways which aren't breaking our terms.
Regards,
Alex.
Those, actually 4 accounts, weren't used as a bank, he wagered on three of them and received wager bonus
personally from me. So he actually broke the ToS.
Regards,
Alex.
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Youre joking. This is ridiculous, a complete low blow.. I stated on chat that I wasn't aware of the rule and that you did not have to credit the other account. Go ahead and check that account, if I did win any wager bonus I
DID NOT withdraw it. On top of this, I
DID NOT refer my self making these accounts
Again this was over 3 months ago, why is this coming up now? This is just another excuse to try and confiscate the funds for yourself.
Again, tell me your decision, so I can take necessary action. I am not letting you take $45k USD that I earned for a rule I broke 3 months ago and was unaware of breaking, as well as this, openly told you about it as I did not know about the rule. Go and check the chat logs.
@bdonlan, Regardless of what you have done in the past Doge Dice is not a judge nor a jury and have no say in what you do with your funds. On legal grounds you have the right to sue them for your property and at this amount it is a felony theft in most places.
@Doge Dice, your options legally are this. Have him withdraw his funds and then ban his account if you don't want him there, or unlock his funds and let him play.
I don't care what peoples opinions are, the basic fact of the matter is Doge Dice does not have any legal basis to steal his property or disburse his property how they see fit. I would sue the living fuck out of them if they did this to me.
We have. He broke our ToS, we are allowed to close account and seize funds.
Regards,
Alex.
You can't just steal someones property because you feel like it. Name the law your ToS are based on. I can name a dozen laws from multiple countries where this is illegal. It is called theft.
I shouldn't have to remind you that a websites ToS are bound by the laws of where they are based.
His reasoning is a rule I broke and openly admitted to (as I did not realise of was a rule at the time) 3 months ago is now his reason for confiscating my funds.
I told him not to credit the other account in the wager comp, I also told him in chat if it was ok and If I recall he said it was fine or else he would of banned me there and then.
This is a huge low blow, worst excuse to confiscate funds. This whole situation is becoming one big joke.
@bdonlan, Regardless of what you have done in the past Doge Dice is not a judge nor a jury and have no say in what you do with your funds. On legal grounds you have the right to sue them for your property and at this amount it is a felony theft in most places.
@Doge Dice, your options legally are this. Have him withdraw his funds and then ban his account if you don't want him there, or unlock his funds and let him play.
I don't care what peoples opinions are, the basic fact of the matter is Doge Dice does not have any legal basis to steal his property or disburse his property how they see fit. I would sue the living fuck out of them if they did this to me.
We have. He broke our ToS, we are allowed to close account and seize funds.
Regards,
Alex.
You can't just steal someones property because you feel like it. Name the law your ToS are based on. I can name a dozen laws from multiple countries where this is illegal. It is called theft.
In the jurisdictions where we are located - Costa Rica, we are allowed to do this. This IS the law. There's nothing to discuss here, it's solid. And for your information currently there's no decision has been made. That's why this topic exists in the first place.
Regards,
Alex.
Tell us when you plan on making this decision.