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That is very good aspect of Rijk. He should have integrity.
But is it true he dumped some of the premine (on the backs of new users) to sell shares?
Doesn't have the community have a say on this? That's dictatorial behavior. Its not his Gulden but ours. We could have a vote what happends with the premine and when and how much is being spent.
Otherwise he is no more different than the Rothchilds.

Why do you think that you have the right to determine what is happening with the premine? Is it your money? No, Gulden isn't yours but from Rijk. Rijk started Gulden and the premine is the funding capital of Gulden for developing it and it is to Rijk to determine what is happening with that amount of Gulden. As simple as that. It is not the community or group of people, only Rijk. The same applies to Slack, he invites whom he wants and removes whoever he wants, also very simple. If you do not like it, do not invest, Rijk is the dictator of Gulden and he and we didn't deny that. We believe in dictatorship in this Gulden community because someone has to take the decisions. When i want that a community is leading i was full in Bitcoin and you see what than is happening: nothing. A Crypto need someone who is the boss.

I am sorry. I thought the community had a say in this. I thought Gulden was a decentralised crypto. It seems like Gulden and Ripple are the same: Big premine and good development.
Can Rijk confirm the above? If so, then there was just a big misunderstanding.

Ripple is centralized and Gulden is decentralized. This Rijk fellow can't put a gun to your head and tell you how to use your Gulden. Bitcointalk, slack etc is a community platform where rules can be made and enforced. I don't see the problem?

Why is Ripple centralized and Gulden not? Rijk determines what happens with the premine.
Kwaasteniet already said it is not decentralised but centralised. Gulden is of Rijk not ours.

Slack same story. Only Rijk determines who can speak and who not.
He fled the #gezellig channel yesterday because it will hurt nietstemmers political party and the new users were asking him questions about this channel and now he can say: I am not on that channel.
He has a lot to explain to the new users now. Stop this moderation now!

Do you think it is nice for the new users that Rijk is not honest and had/have an inner circle channel? Plans were made here (when to dump, how much to dump, who to invite on meetings etc) in secret.
Do you think it is fair that Rijk dumped the premine on the back of the new users and not being honest about it? Dash has a wonderful government system. Where there is a treasury. People can actual vote on proposals. There is no dictator like Rijk in Dash.
It is very quite on #gezellig now, some DGB friends mentioned that they should rename it to #ongezellig

DGB friends, rich of them to complain when they are dishonest about Twitter followers and stats, look at how the GRS community also exposed them. $250k investment that no one knows is true and yet Myriad had to help them with Multi-Algo. Why question this coin when your own house is not in order.

It's called jealousy but I wouldn't condemn their entire community. Most of them of them are most likely closet Gulden supporters but I have a feeling the GRS person is trying to instigate a fight between dgb and nlg users.

Altcoinfanatic and GRSisWIN are both the same person. imo.

Psychoticboy a rich Dutch investor is involved with GRS and EFL maybe he can confirm if he knows who it is.