Quote from: dzimbeck on March 17, 2017, 04:28:42 AM

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Quote from: mcfom on March 16, 2017, 06:12:12 PM

Wow amazing $10m raised in just 90 minutes so it looking this will be finished in next few hours as like people are investing into this project.

Just so you know when Patrick did Bitbay he bought almost 50% of it and gave himself a refund with free coins. So in this case the majority of this was bought by him and the others Patrick works with. If he holds close to 100% then he will try to dump them for the highest price. The chat log of Patrick/Steven Dai doing this is all over Bitcointalk. However I have tons more chat logs from Bay of him doing that to us. I've had to endure him dumping his Bay while I developed for 2 years. Don't ever trust this soulless theif. So no Qtum didn't raise 10 million in a few minutes. Investors beware.

Even if what you say is true, having been to China and seeing the stuff people will invest hundreds of thousands of dollars in, I honestly think there was more than enough demand to have sold this out in only a couple hours. I know people there who've spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on rock collections and jade and other similar nonsense just because there aren't sufficient investment options in China. And since all the other developers know about this guy's history I'm sure they're watching him more closely than they otherwise would, so presumably he wouldn't be able to pull anything like that unless he has everyone colluding on it-given the supposed investors involved I would seriously doubt that he could pull this off unless he wants to end up in a Chinese gulag. It's one thing to rip off random people on the internet, but if you rip off a founder of Kuaidi you'll end up in a bad place real quick.

Anyways, the ICO is over anyways so it is what it is. At this point let's just see if Qtum actually develops into something interesting or if I just wasted a few thousand bucks.

Well when he screwed us at BitBay he was in on it with Lin from BTER who used phantom BTC to fund it and Bobsurplus and Gekko. And what I'm saying is true, its all over Bitcointalk it was famous. I dealt with him first hand and he said he would stay and he didn't and kept the funds he got. Luckily he is out of BitBay now but watch your ass.

And any project that sells all that in 90 minutes is paying themselves. I've seen this with my own eyes man on the project that I have now taken over.

Do you seriously think rich people don't work together to steal from people?? There is no oversight the devs have into Patrick, at best they will have a multisig assuming the exchanges don't refund Patrick first.

How do you think they got rich in the first place?

By lying.

And just so you know, as long as Dais partners are secretive about their refunds it can go 10+ years unnoticed. Look at Enron... that company didn't even exist and was making billions for untold amounts of years. And how long did Bernie Madoff make money off people?? Maybe you haven't been paying attention. But I'm not going to fight any investors here, I've already said I will stay out of it. You have all been clearly told what goes on. If you want to gamble nobody is stopping you. Dai can shit gold bricks but that won't change what he is.

This is what I've been giving my life to fight. To prevent deception using double deposit escrow. Sadly the only way to stop guys like Dai is with a barbed club.

that's how I imagine almost every ethereum ICO sells out "within minutes". but yeah, you can't stop dumb, let them burn