Quote from: rizzlarolla on March 18, 2017, 03:26:34 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on March 18, 2017, 01:43:01 PM

Quote from: rizzlarolla on March 18, 2017, 01:17:19 PM

Quote from: NOP@SSWORD on March 14, 2017, 08:12:08 PM

Most of those accounts are newbies. What are the benefits of hacking newbies?

Take a look at this thread where these newbie hacked accounts are used for trust farming/false trading.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1793966.msg18067586#msg18067586

That boomin guy is the latest (caught) alt of MariusTi aka steamproject aka tberty aka Dorkslayz etc etc who uses an army of dozens of alts to fake vouch or spam bump his threads of torrent invites (and he's probably had around a 100 banned). He either has a massive stockpile of them or buys them from account sellers but I'm more inclined to believe that he has just farmed/created them himself as there's a lot that were just used to make one or two posts to bump/vouch for his thread then discarded, though some of the older ones recently came back to life and started selling the torrent invites when a lot of his other accounts got found out and banned. This behaviour with him has been going on for years with him and not just on this forum either as he's been banned from numerous forums and never learns.

So you basically just agree that hacking (old) newbie accounts do have benefits for scammer's, and illustrating those benefits to scammer's.

Quote from: rizzlarolla on March 18, 2017, 03:26:34 PM

Steamproject ran his thread nearly 2 years on bct. What exactly was he supposed to "learn" from that?

He wasn't caught until recently and it was his inability to not follow the marketplace rules repeatedly that kept getting him into trouble. When he gets banned for the behaviour he just comes back on more alts and does the same and seems to have done this on multiple forums.

Quote from: rizzlarolla on March 18, 2017, 03:26:34 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on March 14, 2017, 08:07:46 PM

I have no idea how many accounts have been compromised but I don't think it's as bad as you're claiming. I suppose certain accounts could be locked but people weep like widows when their accounts are auto locked as a precautionary measure when someone tries to reset the password via the security question and they cry even more when they have to wait for it to be restored. Also, if the account hasn't posted an address or they can no longer sign a message from one then they're screwed that way and they would then blame the forum for that so we're damned if we do and damned if we don't.

I should respond here too.
You have no idea how many accounts have been compromised, Yet somehow "auto conclude" i'm wrong?

I'm not sure where you get the figure of 'hundreds of thousands' of accounts have been hacked from as it seems exaggerated but if you can provide evidence of that then I'll happily admit I'm wrong but the exact figure seems beside the point.

Quote from: rizzlarolla on March 18, 2017, 03:26:34 PM

You compare "auto locked" accounts with "systemically hacked" account's, but they are not hacked in the same way. (afaik)
Security question accounts are by default "locked out" till staff action, while systemically (password) hacked accounts are by default "allowed in" until staff action?

I'm not saying they are hacked in the same way but the outcome is still the same and staff can't win. How can we do anything about accounts that are not yet hacked? People were told to change their account passwords and if they didn't for whatever reason then their accounts are at risk but if they had a very strong password then they'd very likely be fine. What are you suggesting we do? Lock all accounts that haven't changed their passwords since the hack or if they haven't posted after x amount of time? If certain accounts are locked as a precautionary measure then what happens when the original owner can't prove that it belongs to him? Then he cries at the forum for unnecessarily doing this to his account. I'm not sure what you would like the admins to do but if you've got a foolproof plan I'd love to hear it.

Quote from: rizzlarolla on March 18, 2017, 03:26:34 PM

You go on about those "auto locked" members weeping like widows, when many have clear proof but still have to wait for months for any action to be taken, then use the damnation of your (staff/admin) inaction's on restoring those few "auto locked" accounts as reason why you can't do anything about 100,000's of completely differently identifiable "systemically (password) hacked" accounts. Correct?

If it takes months to restore accounts now then what do you expect when there's (in your words) hundreds of thousands to restore? Only admins can restore accounts and there's nothing that regular staff can do about it. Yeah, there should be another admin or two to deal with account recoveries and finding alts or whether but that's something only theymos can act on.