Quote from: TraderTimm on March 20, 2017, 02:04:57 PM

Quote from: odolvlobo on March 20, 2017, 06:03:31 AM

Listen, Chicken Little, if you have 5% of the hash rate, your attempt to "split the network" will go nowhere. The Bitcoin.com pool has around that much of the hash rate, and their accidental 1 MB+ block had no effect on the network at all.

Also, if a large enough portion of the hash rate increases the max block size, the rest of the miners won't be left behind, they will jump on board.

You make it sound like miners have to choose between Core or BU, but they don't. They can use whatever software they want. They can change the rules whenever they want. They don't need the Core priesthood to bless their changes.

Finally, miners already have full control. They have the ultimate say. That is how Bitcoin works. That is how it is structured. They do the proof-of-work. They decide what is valid and what is not valid. Of course, the other full nodes have some leverage, and users have some economic influence. But in the end, whether you like it or not, miners decide.

Their influence may be reduced, however. By putting it to the acid test they are incentivizing developers to look for ways to balance their "power". One potential nuclear deterrent is the threat of a Proof-of-Work change. While the effects would be disruptive, it would effectively negate any bullying potential. I hope it doesn't come to that, but when you have Bitcoin Unlimited tantrums with people saying they'll sue others - it pretty much tells you what you need to know.

There is an agenda being stuffed down the clients throats by "jihad" Wu, and it isn't one that they necessarily agree with, given the fact that most clients are using 0.13 - 0.14, which is an implicit backing of Segwit/Lightning.

Its sad, but I suppose we had to get to this point and have some clueless asshole push and push until we see their threats countered by effective changes to the system.

to play devils advocate , I wonder how free he is to choose his position ,,, what if you are forced to play a position you don't want to play....