Quote from: smooth on March 20, 2017, 08:33:39 PM

Quote from: Fragbait on March 20, 2017, 08:00:30 PM

Quote from: megges on March 20, 2017, 05:33:38 PM

And many many people lost a fuckload of money because fluffy was telling everybody how bad dash is, right before it sprung x10. These people shorted dash because they beliefed fluffy, and lost all, these shorters are the ones which made the dash price rise exponential bigger than it would have been without the shorting. And they shorted because dash is so bad and its just a pump and dump scam coin and so on, at least everybody told them so - for them 20 dollar a dash was hardly overpriced, look where dash is now.

If you ask for who was scammed by dash, you won't find one (at least noone who was buying in the last 3 years), because price went from ath to ath, there could no one be scammed per definition, because noone could have lost with ath after ath. (for me a scam is if someone loses money! - ofc thats my definition, but its true!). On the other hand lots and lots of people lost money because they shorted dash after all that "its a total scam coin" definition from fluffy and his friends with all these cool videos...

This man speaks the truth. Just keep on listening to Fulffy and Icebreaker and Smooth and Generalthis and who else if you want to keep on losing money. Their track record so far certainly indicates that.

Hey wait a minute. I never told anyone to short anything and fluffypony never did either (not sure about the others). I even pointed out on the Dash thread years ago that I own some, and still do, though I wouldn't call it a massive position. I do think long term Dash is going to (nearly) zero, and it won't be alone among today's major cryptos, but that is hardly a reason to short, unless you are prepared to maintain collateral and pay interest (and hope that the shorting market still exists) indefinitely. I'm not recommending that one bit and I never did.

As far as the previous quote, this is certainly not correct. Dash has made new ATHs (as had XMR) but that doesn't mean that people didn't lose money, FOMO buying and then selling lower when the hype faded (or other similarly bad trading). Many have.

It's a long time, but i have had a few discussins with you, which went not into fudding, scam accussasions and ... like it went with so many other ponnys when i was talking about dash to them. So yeah i think you are not that bad/retarded (perhaps it has to do with the user smoothie, that you are not liked Tongue

) - so at least for me you are one of the camp monero guys with who i had some serious conversations in the past.

About the second part, ofc some people lost money for buying high and selling low. But thats traders choice, and it has nothing to do with dash and that dash scamed these people because of false promises - in fact these "promises" if you wanna call them that way, were all fullfilled because everyone (at least for now at an ath) has made money if he beliefed in dashs tech.

Instead with the shorters who lost money its a different story, because its not one, not two, not three videos in which fluffy and his gang discredited dash, its many of them! And he clearly told in these videos that dash is a total scam and its not worth even a cent. So what will someone do who saw that and thought its the truth, right he would short after the first move from 10 to 20 dollar. And he will only short more the higher it goes (if he has money left, perhaps he will also sell his wife/mother/... if he hasen't), because with all these flaws and scams, dash is not even worth 1 dollar, not 10, not 20, .... -> but it turned out they got burned all and now its worth 100 dollar, so who did scam all the noobs? Fluffy or Dash?