Quote from: FractalUniverse on March 24, 2017, 10:00:11 PM

Maybe you are all right with ETH having big potential, but I am still wary of its quick ascend. As you say, it took very long time and many setbacks for bitcoin to reach $4.5 bio market cap. How can we know how much volume of those ETH buying transactions are real people running away/diversifying from BTC, and what part is just some whales' bots having algorithms synchronized with bitcoin movements pushing price up when BTC drops? there may be hundreds of millions dollars investments behind the price

Well, eth, constantly had/has positive news for the past 1.5 years. And i'm talking about real news, not the kind of "positive news" people were used with before ethereum. Like being mentioned on a crypto site or having a wallet. Which were actually pump&dump reasons LOL. ETH had real usage news, real projects. It started to gain attention with important news, not vaporware type of news. For the first 6-10months, 1/3 of it's volume was in fiat, and about 2/3 in bitcoin. So 2/3 of it's volume came from speculators who also speculated into bitcoin.
But, at this very moment, only about half of ethereum's volume is in bitcoin, which suggest people from outside the crypto market came and invested usd/euro/cny/krw explicitly into ethereum. If you also take into consideration that many bitcoiners are now fleeing from bitcoin into ethereum because of the internal btc civil war, then eth/btc would probably be even lower. Which suggests soon bitcoin and ethereum will have different kind of investors.
Proof: https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/eth/analysis/BTC

Quote from: FractalUniverse on March 24, 2017, 10:00:11 PM

but how much of it is coming from small investors?

50% volume is fiat..which suggest 50% of the money funneled into it didn't had btc to invest. Also investing btc doesn't mean you're extremely rich, there are probably thousands of people owning between 1 and 100btc.

Quote from: FractalUniverse on March 24, 2017, 10:00:11 PM

1 coin value is actually not that important, when it comes to using them for real payments transactions. What matters is how many people can use it, and thats where ETH will lag behind probably for very long time.

Ethereum now is used mainly for real work, real usage, and ofcourse speculation. Thing about ethereum is, it's value is backed by everything ethereum currently means: ethereum foundation, hundreds of devs working on projects, institutions, corporations, network effect, etc. When you are backed up like this, you don't have to rely on people's faith and hope they will not dump. Because ethereum has usage outside speculation and even if all speculators would give up on it, it's value would probably still stay around 5$. Bitcoin without speculation wouldnt exist, nor any other public crypto project.

Quote from: FractalUniverse on March 24, 2017, 10:00:11 PM

Bitcoin is like top brand in crypto world, and in some languages ethereum might not sound as cool and easy to pronounce as bitcoin.

Here you are right, bitcoin is a big brand. But big brands die fast if they don't innovate and they don't have real value backing them. Nokia's brand alone couldn't save it. Same for sony ericsson. And there are hundreds of examples.

Quote from: FractalUniverse on March 24, 2017, 10:00:11 PM

I just cant close my eyes and buy into this, when 50+% correction or dump can be around the corner. Or it can go to 100-200 as some people say and surpass market cap of bitcoin. Well, but i have to admit, that I had also missed huge opportunity years ago, and didnt invest big into bitcoin when it was around $10. so... Cheesy

Do you own bitcoin ? If so, these are these options:
1. You hold. You risk losing everything, and the upside is like ~1500$ this year if everything will be ok from now on.
2. You sell:
2.1 Move into fiat, your risk will be 0, maybe just the inflation
2.2 You can take a small risk and move into ETH. I'd say there's 25% chances for it to go to 20-25$ range with negative news and bitcoin recovery. 50% chance to go to 100$ in the next 3 months because of raiden in few weeks and then metropolis. If you don't know what raiden is: mass scaling, no project done this so far. and 25% chances for flippening to happen, assuming everyone moves from bitcoin to ethereum.
3. Move into other cryptos, but their potential is really low since they are either bitcoin clones, or dapp platforms aiming to be ethereum.