Quote from: Lauda on March 25, 2017, 08:38:32 AM

Quote from: r0ach on March 25, 2017, 07:54:22 AM

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This is why I say I hope you people bought some physical, tangible items with your moon priced bitcoins, because everything about digital currency trading and price is so heinously fraudulent (as can be seen by 0.1 btc priced darkcoins), that it's all going to come collapsing down in a big way someday. It's obviously not a store of value when nobody is even putting anything of value on the line in a lot of cases in the first place...leveraging illiquid assets...

Enough of your nonsense metals propaganda. The market of metals is one of the corruptest and overpriced markets out there. Neither gold nor silver are worth anywhere near what they're priced at right now (don't make me go into diamonds and other crap).

Quote from: kurious on March 25, 2017, 08:19:20 AM

Quote from: Lauda on March 25, 2017, 07:31:17 AM

Did you even read the BIP before asking questions? Angry

This does not really need miners, especially not 95% as the BIP9 activation does. It sets a flag day. When this day is reached, anyone running this BIP (Bitfury is already testing it) is producing Segwit blocks and this is compatible with all >0.13.1 nodes.

What sort of timescale are you suggesting for this?

It is already defined in the BIP. October 2017. Anyone who has a client supporting Segwit already does not have to do anything.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on March 25, 2017, 08:20:03 AM

It takes two to tango, doesn't it?

There is no tango here.

Quote from: Fatman3001 on March 25, 2017, 08:20:03 AM

To the degree people are choosing alts over BTC, Ver & Jihan can hardly be held accountable. Core has dropped the ball. Can they pick it up? That would require a schism (another one) in Core. UASF is almost as divisive as BU. And without leadership...

This is bullshit. Nobody in their right fucking mind would attempt to use one of these scam coins. The only reason that people go in those is to gather more Bitcoin. That said, both Ver & Jihan are directly responsible for this, with their power-grab attempt. Core has done nothing wrong. They provided a very good (Segwit isn't perfect) scaling solution that would provide ~2.1 MB worth of TXs with adoption. In addition to that, they'd implement Schnorr post Segwit which would give the network even more capacity without requiring a HF.

Quote from: Searing on March 25, 2017, 07:44:11 AM

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argh..just pump to 2k already and I'd not be worrying about frigging 2.25k of btc in my attic in $$$ towards ebay Sad

My understanding is that, some price decline post ETF denial was to be expected and healthy. However, this is starting to become too much. People are *scared*, and this is directly due to the threats from Jihan to fork BTC into BTC & BTU (altcoin). If there was never a BTU, and Segwit activated in late December or early Q1 2017, we could have probably been at $2000 already (at least for a moment).

Anybody else remember when we tried to have rational discussions on these topics since over a year ago? Too bad certain moderators kept deleting our conversations. Without discussion, opinions polarized and now the situation has boiled over.

If you are mad Lauda, look in the mirror.