Quote from: JanpriX on April 07, 2017, 06:36:31 PM

This has just turned into a pissing contest. Nobody is open for some compromise and everyone wants their side to win with whatever they are fighting.

Bitcoin was designed this way on purpose in order to protect the immutability of its laws (aka protocol).

John Nash designed Bitcoin with a game theory of a non-cooperating game, meaning that there can be no changes because the participants are inherently non-cooperating.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on April 07, 2017, 04:03:06 AM

For me, this is almost the "true spirit" of Bitcoin- no one agrees with another, and this agreement is not required...

However, if this goes on, bitcoin will really become an electronic asset/store of value, and no longer a efficient payment channel.

I dont agree with you, because we need to make an agreement or reach a consensus to improve bitcoin.

Learn game theory please before you think you are thinking. You are not thinking.

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Quote from: dinofelis on April 07, 2017, 06:40:52 AM

and an immutable system doesn't need nor want development, and is designed to resist any breach of immutability.

Except when there exists overwhelming consensus to enact changes, that is.

I am actually going to agree with you 100%. One such example would be quantum resistant protocol changes. That would focus minds.

Overwhelming consensus only exists on those things which benefit everyone pretty much equally, which was precisely the point that @dinofelis and I made about the game theory of PoW being crab bucket mentality.

And that is why you'll never see any consensus on block size or SegWit, other than to defend the status quo which is the Schelling point of the whales (i.e. pull everyone back into the crab bucket so nobody gets an "unfair" advantage).

Schelling point. Learn it.

Meh... even if it could be true, they can only play that game for so long before undermining the fundamentals so its pointless...therefore improbable.

The fundamentals are that Bitcoin's value is due to being able to trust that its laws never change. This is why whales store their reserves in BTC.

It is not pointless. And just because you are a BU shill, the reality will not change to accommodate your pathetic activity of being a pawn that Jihan Wu is using and will throw in the garbage when he is done using you.