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I philosophically believe that taxation is theft. However, I'm still for taxation, but only for pretty essential stuff. No tax money for high school/college, churches, museums, etc.

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Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

I did not see taxation as theft because is through taxation that state can build roads, health care facilities, schools, fight external aggression against the state, pay state workers salary and finance research for technological development. But some tax collectors are theft and they also stole from state.

If taxes are 50% of your income or more then I believe that is theft. It seems to me that the government spends so much money inefficiently. What is that but theft?

If I walk up to you with a gun and forcibly takes 40% of your money, is it theft?

I think this example is not correct. The state does not come with arms to take it off your taxes. They ask you to buy something that you don't need at a very expensive price.

Try abstaining from paying taxes and I'm pretty sure some big guys with arms will show up to detain you. My example goes further. If I confront you and force you to buy my socks for 40% of everything you have on you, did I steal or did I simply ask (essentially force, just like the state) you to buy what you didn't need, for a price you didn't want to pay?

We are responsible for your choice. If the majority vote for politicians, robbers, or you obey the majority, or leave for another country. The choice is yours.

That'd allow the majority to rule over the minority, and it'd still essentially be theft. I personally have no problem with paying taxes, although I believe they could be lowered. I live in a democratic socialist state, go figure.