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3. The religion of God is to show and know the truth, period. This is done through peace. Without peace, nothing can exist.

OK, BADecker; please support me in spreading this joyful message of peace:
Jesus never said that you would be damned for "not believing in Jesus":
http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/15353/did-jesus-actually-ever-say-if-you-dont-believe-in-me-you-go-to-hell

So BADecker, you are refusing to spread a tolerant message of peace? If you look at Matthew 23 I think you will find some important details about who exactly stands to benefit from denying message of peace:

The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4 They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other peoples shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.

If Jesus was preaching a tolerant message of peace, the Pharisees wouldn't have incited the people of Jerusalem and the Romans to put Him to death.

Now that Jesus died and arose, the message of peace revolves around, Believe in Jesus salvation and be saved. There is no other message of peace.

If you do not accept the message of peace, it is not I who am not proclaiming it.

Cool

Jesus never said that you would be damned for "not believing in Jesus":
http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/15353/did-jesus-actually-ever-say-if-you-dont-believe-in-me-you-go-to-hell
Jesus is said to have risen from death, but he never said that you will die unless you believe in his resurrection. Read the discussion linked above, I have linked it already but you want to ignore those logical answers in favor of your special dogma.

Those scholars who have studied the Bible in detail, have shown us that it is faith in Jesus salvation that saves us. There is no place that says that there is salvation any other way. No salvation? Then Hell.

Who blots a person's name out of the Book of Life? It is not Jesus. It is the person Himself, through his lack of faith.

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BADecker, you lost abattle and stoped responding since I read your pattern of defending your religion. You realise that the fact you stopped replying in that moment, when you see I can read you like a book confirms the fact that even you do not believe in a God, but you are just too selfish, too hypocrite to admit that your whole life was a lie until now. Trying to start other debates with other people is worthless since you haven't finished one in which you are losing.

Poor baby. So you think there was a debate going on, eh? Thank God that I don't have to believe that God exists. I have scientific proof, and the strong evidence of nature to show me. Too bad you don't understand science, and too bad you can't see nature. You are missing out on a ton of great and wonderful things from God.

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It won't work this way, dear cultist, and you know almost nothing of science and nature. By the examples that you give as proof it is obvious you have knowledge about science but you are not able to use reason and basic logic to understand it. Therefore, anything you've ever studied is worthless.

Poor baby. You are missing it all the way. I am willing to help you see your mistakes, though. Read on.

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This is a battle you shall lose in a split, if it ever came to this. But our debate, and it was one, was not covering science, nor nature.

Here is part of your mistake. We weren't having a battle. Why not? Because you were and are off-topic. You state it yourself.

Your only battle is with yourself... thrashing around wildly, beating the air, so to speak.

Quote from: Horacewoodwood on April 11, 2017, 08:10:30 AM

It was all about you, believers, the ones who are hypocrites and sepparate themselves from their religion when their religion is proved to have done great wrongdoings. It was about how you, cultists, always stay on the winning side, whatever that winning side would be. Do you want an example? Study about the orders of Pope Pius XII before and during the Nazi era. In our little debate, dear Badecker, I told you what your next step, as a hypocrite, would be in defending your shit, worthless, primitive religion. And you did it, and after I reminded you of what you did and how that confirmed my point, you never responded. It's a good choice to stop responding since there was nothing you could say anymore, you've lost your point. But you start debating the same bullshit again with other people, hoping they will not outsmart you and see beneath the curtain of primitive bullshit? Nah, I'm here you little cultist to make sure any shit you will say will be proven wrong.

You are so funny. That's a military thing. When you are giving orders, you tell the soldiers what you are going to tell them. Then you tell it to them. Then you tell them what you have told them.

What's the matter? Do you have to repeat it just to stay off-topic?

Why don't you get on topic and step-by-step rebut the things in my links that prove God exists. Several other forum members have made a stab at going the step-by-step route. But not only have they NOT rebutted the proof I show, they couldn't even get into the step-by-step mode and stay on topic. Can you do it?

I'm waiting.

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There is nothing but presumtions in your links, just as the presumption a God may or may not exist. Nothing there proves the existence of a God, it only gives a religious nonsensical interpretation of science. Therefore, since some intelligent people around already explained to you why they are bullshit, I have no reason to repeat it again. As I stated before, you are not able to properly understand reason or logic. That, or you are trolling. As for the ''orders' thing, you are completely mistaken. It's a pattern that you, followers, follow. Based on that pattern, I simply predicted what you were going to say next. I am as on topic as I could be, you are the one leading and I counter what you claim. Now, besides those bullshit links, your arguments are just modern religious indoctrinating crap, the same arguments you would get from any cultist who has no proof but has to convince people it's his way. As you can see, that's not going to work with me. Not the passive-aggresive attitude, not the mystical shit, not the 'humans can't understand God's way', nothing of this type. I expect you to prove the existence of a God. Your links have been disproven. If you do have something else, please, enlighten us. If not, please, don't resume yourself to that cultist monologue that I can hear at any corner of the street.

Almost everything in your posts is presumption, especially your spelling of the word "presumptions."

Cheesy