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I'd be very careful buying directly from Baikal. Before they accepted only BTC and now it looks like only DASH. Either way you have no way of proving that you made payment. You HAVE TO TRUST them! That's no way to do business.

Best thing to do is to buy from a distributor who let's you pay with PayPal or credit card - so you have record of having paid.

You might even need proof of purchase if your order gets held up in customs! Shocked

There's a lot that can go wrong, and with everyone who still has stock having doubled the price per unit in the last few weeks, it's somewhat strange that Baikal is still offering units at 300 USD equivalent. Roll Eyes

Caveat emptor. Cool

Hi all,

Just an update, the Baikals have now more than tripled, and the quads have risen by 600% +. A little nuts considering that you could buy 8 individuals for the price of one quad now. That "bubble" pricing. Totally illogical. And those are the prices coming out of China!

Again, Caveat emptor. Cool

Quoting yourself doesn't make u right.
What exacly are u basing this price increase on because their website displays the same price as before.

You disagree? You have other prices? Can you find an individual Baikal for less than $1,000? A quad for less than ~5 times that? Even on e-Bay? Why don't you do your homework before asking others to do it for you?

https://fr.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=AS_20170324055125&SearchText=baikal+mineiro
http://www.ebay.com/itm/X11-X13-X14-X15-Quark-Qubit-Miner-Baikal-150M-40W-DASH-miner-/201639484575

The individual miners were sub $500 and the quads around $1,800 just a month and a half ago.

And if these are the prices being asked by those who still have stock to sell, do you think Baikal is really going to send you a unit for $300?

You want to talk to someone reputable in the States? Try here: http://deepinthemines.com/index.php?rt=product/category&path=43_74

You're welcome, but this was a one-timer for you. I don't respond twice to lazy people with attitudes.

People are trying to sell them for that price but people are not buying them. I've seen the same ones on ebay since the price increase.
The most expensive sale I knew completed was £2,000 for a quad which is really high compared to Baikals manufactor price but like any business model it's supply and demand and you're gunna pay more to a middle man. £2,000 still got an okish ROI compared with a BTC miner calculated at the top of the Dash spike so I can see how that sale happened. They just didn't expect a price drop or gambled the price was gunna keep going.

I think the x11 community of miners have their eyes more open in terms of ROI experience than a BTC complete newbie and wont fall for paying the silly prices that are floating around the net at the moment. If you do know anyone paying £10,000 for a quad let me know...(based off a mini on ebay costing £2,500 lololololol)

Just a note on these skype scammers. They tried it on with me too but I thought it all sounded to shady so I dropped baikal direct emails.
I must say I am not a fan of how Baikal have reacted - to just point out the correct skype address is a bit poor. I consider the fact Baikal have just made a new website so why not make the whole payment thing an easier better experience? I mean by having the site calculate shipping etc and give you a total and a payment address (like bitmain website) This would have killed the scammers off and solved the problem. If the webite does that then I retract the statement - I missed the stock so I wouldn't know, just judging by the amount of ppl talking about skype scams.

I agree with everything you said and would just add that the lack of communication about current/future production/stock on Baikal's part makes things look even fishier. Very strange indeed considering that the product works quite well. Maybe they have financing problems? Maybe they're just shady characters? Who knows? But it's not very businesslike.

It also looks like they're now asking 799 for a single unit: http://www.baikalminer.com/product_view.php?ID=11

And they only take payment in BTC, LTC or DASH so you've got to trust them since there is no way you can prove having paid. Sad