Quote from: Beefsock on April 16, 2013, 09:01:17 PM

Quote from: Carlos L. on April 16, 2013, 04:39:20 PM

Quote from: Wardrick on April 16, 2013, 02:18:01 PM

Quote from: Mike Christ on April 16, 2013, 04:36:05 AM

I certainly hope they're charging decently, then. Even if it took just an hour, .185 (about 12 and fifty right now) per logo isn't exactly much. When businesses are demanding logos left and right to fill up an entire day's worth of work, every day, non-stop, then it's a nice rate. But once every now and then for a little extra on the side isn't a "rip-off." It's not even part-time.

Further: those logos aren't very marketable. They're all flash. They look great artistically, but businesses (aside from a tattoo parlor maybe) aren't generally looking for logos like that. I'm assuming they're using a 3D text tool and adding cool effects, which, as you say, doesn't take much time, which also implies it doesn't take much thought or effort into what the business actually needs for a logo. Pick a font, add the effects, done.

Exactly why I gave those as an example. They're great artistically, and they only took 45 minutes. He could do one of those logo's listed in the OP in about 5 minutes if you gave him the things you wanted on it. Saying it takes 2-3 hours is bullshit and it is a rip off, because it doesn't take that long at all if you're actually working on it. Say you're charging $60 for a layout, $25 for a logo, or whatever, but don't lie saying it takes 2-3 hours for something like that. If it does take you 2-3 hours, you're either OCD or just really slow.

He took 38 hours to make me a template (which btw, was never finished).
He's also now taking over 20 days to come up with a avatar to my forum account.

@Carlos, I am not making you an avatar. You aren't getting something for free from me? I agreed to make it but you never discussed terms further, we didn't even set a price. This is even AFTER our failed agreement earlier that exposed your ways earlier in the thread. I am a very well respected member of the bitcoin community as you know, stop the shenanigans please. By the way, the more you post the more my thread bumps and the more work I keep getting.

For free? Where the hell did I say I wanted it for free?

Here's my PM:

Quote from: Carlos L. on March 25, 2013, 02:04:39 PM

Hi,

I've deleted my posts on your topic, you should also delete the quoting you made to answer me Wink

I really don't like to have unfinished business with anyone, so I'm contacting you so you can have another chance to make things right.
This time is something simple, I think.
I need a unique avatar to use on my social networks, bitcointalk.org, twitter, etc...

Is should integrate Bitcoin, programming, PHP and HTML.
Doesn't need to have any direct references to any of those, those are examples to make your imagination more fertile

(Example: https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_70642.png Grin

)

If you agree to do this, please let me know.

Kind regards,
Carlos

Now please, quote the part I said I wanted it for free.