Quote from: gentlemand on April 15, 2017, 06:38:42 PM

Until the justice system is 100% irrevocably absolutely infallible the death penalty should not exist.

If one innocent person get done in by the state then that's an outrage, of course it's probably countless thousands.

And a whole life term in somewhere like ADX Florence is going to be a far worse fate than being put down.

I agree But 40k a prisoner cost to the public tax purse..

And more and more 40k a year will be needed to lock everyone up..

Now just think for every 15k payed in universal income it will save 40k a year on a prisoner ..

So imagine 10 people on 15k a year how many will go on to do crime?.

Now imagine 10 people on nothing and no jobs around how many will go on to do crime?.

Now if all 10 do crime 400k a year to lock them up..and that's not counting court cost and what ever else they have cost.

10 x15k = 150k to the tax man ..

Now just say 3 out the 10 do crime even though they still get a universal income

7 don't do crime costing 15k =105k + the 3 that went to jail 120k = 225k to the tax man..

saving 175k by giving all 10 a universal income..

But if no jobs they will all be robbing and killing to sell drugs ALL 10 OF THEM..