Quote from: 64dimensions on April 17, 2017, 06:14:53 AM

Oh get off your high horse. I do what I want, when I want and how I want. If you want to talk morals, Claymore took OPEN SOURCE miners, tweaked them a little and released them as closed-source. Depending on the licenses of the original works it might not even be legal for him to release it without the source and without containing any copyright notices of the original works he made a derivate of. Where's your outrage there?

cK'

Your argument is lame for several reasons. In the big picture, CM and all mining software providers, provides a service:

0) For miners, the mining software is a mission critical requirement. Even with free open source software there is a maintaining cost.

1) If you bother to read any of the CM miner threads, CM frequently incorporates suggested user changes/requirements. In a normal S/W development effort this would require some sort of costed out change order(s).

2) Unlike the real world, you don't pay extra if the mining software you need is ported to a newly released card.

3) It's in CM's financial interest to keep the mining software competitive with what is offered to large commercial installations.

4) I can't even imagine what the hourly cost would be to contract out to this software development to someone who needs coding + GPU assembly language + crypto coin programming experience.

5) People are already paying pools for providing a service as well as companies such as nicehash.

6) The cost of going from BTC to fiat is something that you really should be complaining about.

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I'm not a big fan of this whole software as a service, it's the modern version of rent-seeking. Basically getting paid for breathing instead of just selling the software for a fixed upfront price.

As it is now, everybody is rent-seeking from miners. In addition to the upfront cost of the mining equipment and the running costs in electricity _AND_ pool fees, miner devs now also want in on it. You guys are aware that without miners there's no PoW coins, right? So either sell your software for an upfront price or don't whine if people work around it. (btw, I'm not a freeloader, I paid fees for months before I decided it was enough)

I'm not saying CM did a bad job or that he doesn't deserve fair compensation for his work, just some people have a weird interpretation of fair.

cK'