Quote from: tvbcof on April 17, 2017, 03:41:37 PM

Quote from: Masha Sha on April 17, 2017, 04:30:51 AM

... how could a barrel of oil hold 6 GJ and a moab only produce 46 GJ blast yield? Why yield, seems more appropriate for farmland. ...

Ya, common misconception about the power of explosives. They tend to release even less energy than a good fuel. They just release it faster making a high enough peek energy density to mechanically fracture a target material.

If one computes the area under the curve of a the energy release from:
- a pound of C4 detonated
- a pound of C4 lit on fire to heat an MRE (Meal Ready to Eat)
it will be similar. It's just that the peak value for the detonated curve will be much higher.

We use a slower explosive like ammonium nitrate for cratering charges which tends more to heave rather than shatter material.

Looked at another way, I could move a lot more dirt with 40 pounds of diesel fuel and a bulldozer than I could with a 40 lb cratering charge.

Thank you! Self evident from the word it itself ex-plosion! So the speed or intensify at which the energy can be released.

If wmds weren't invented i would say time to weaponize Oil Wink

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Quote from: Xester on April 19, 2017, 12:12:15 PM

Quote from: Masha Sha on April 15, 2017, 05:25:11 AM

So i have no idea how big is a 50kt explosion. But this bomb is very small in size... can you understand the trend?

And this lead me to say that all those that support people like putin & co, those faking power weak dying men (all will die), are a problem to me and the earth.

Yes those type of munitions are necessary against "Power"men, however why isn't a better world worked on?

Spin your bullshit to defend them as you want mad(&dying)servants of those men... and the worst is that by defending them you will pay her dinner... she would eat the bones of her children if there was daimond in it...

Western civilization is a humanist vision in which Roman law integrated Jesus wisdom, thereby giving Western culture its distinctive character: freedom of speech and of the press, equal justice under law, the primacy of the individual, separation of religion and state, freedom of religion and from religion, property rights, sexual equality, an independent judiciary, and independent education, among other values, like clean natural nutrishious food, pure water, clean air, and formost respect and love for the biospheres.

Sadly, there are still a lot of barbarians around, one disctinctive feature is: personnality cult for men and women (the concept of honor, dignity, liberty or duty are relegated to their servitude to their leader (alive or dead). Another word for barbarians in subhumans, sadly they even with all their weakness still learn how to make and use weapons.

And this is why or they become human (they all can) or must be killed fisrt.

If you remember the atomic bombed dropped on hiroshima Japan that was a 15 kiloton megabomb. That event has causes tremendous damaged and has damaged an entire city causing thousand of people to die. Imagine if those 50 kilotons nuclear bomb will be dropped in an area it will be stronger than the atomic bomb dropped on hiroshima and the damage will be also greater and at the same time the place will be inhabitable after how many years due to radiation. Truly the United States of America is crazy and will panic if a terrorist will have access to one of those bombs and will be used against it.

The problem is that single nukes are more in the 20000+ kilotonnes range (20Megatonnes)... and with MIRV missiles (Multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle) at 100kt per bomb...

For example the biggest used, tsar bomba was only 50M because the max design of 100M would have killed the airplan pilots 100%... read it's crazy, soviet ways...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba

And here is what a 50M Total destruction radius, superimposed on Paris.

Hiroshima was atomic, this is next level: hydrogen...

I don't understand what you mean by the your remark on the fear of terrorists or rogues or barbarians actors getting such a weapon? Common defense as per the constitution is very rational against such weapons, and not crazy at all.

The best way to suppress this risk, is removed nuke technology civilian and military and sadly eliminate the regimes persuing it. And no there will be no panick, as it's not the proper way to handle such a situation...

Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 19, 2017, 05:15:15 PM

Quote from: Forester618 on April 19, 2017, 02:43:24 PM

Are you sure that the Koreans want to live in such a world? I'm not sure. Moreover I don't like the world in which maniacs possess nuclear weapons and not only mock his people, but threaten other countries. Jerzy Kim should be destroyed and nuclear weapons of North Korea must be liquidated.

Destruction of Kim Jong Un is not that easy. He commands an army of almost 4 million people, and these people are ready to die for him. You need to analyze whether 5-6 million deaths (may be much more) is OK, if you want to topple Kim Jong Un. For me, it will be better to maintain a status quo, rather than causing the mass murder of so many people.

The problem is that there is no status quo, kimi and his alike are still investing massively in wmds. The more time pass the better they get (ever played a rts?), the tsar bomb was made end in 1961...

Sadly I think you are right, it will be hard to eliminate dprk conventionnally... but against a nuclear wmds ready actor the doctrines of engagement are quite different... and your number maybe too low... furthermore if you add that Seoul must be unscatered...

But who knows what may really lie in the us arsenal... because winning but making a giant ecological nightmare isn't really winning.